Hello everyone,
I have been a silent reader of this forum for some time now. Since we are currently planning our single-family home, I decided to register here. Attached is the first draft. We are quite satisfied with the initial room layout.
The only part I haven’t found a solution for yet is the staircase. I would like to have a staircase with a landing inside the house, but this is currently not possible due to the adjacent rooms.
What do you think in general about the room layout? Do you have any tips or ideas on how to design it differently or better?
Here is the relevant information for you:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 663 sqm (approx. 20 x 33 m (66 x 108 ft)) — Plot no. 13
Maximum building size: House: 12 x 10 m (39 x 33 ft), Garage: 7 x 9 m (23 x 30 ft)
Slope: no / flat
Site coverage ratio 0.35
Floor area ratio -
Building plot, building line and boundary: available (see attachment)
Edge development: yes (garage)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style: /
Orientation: specified in the development plan
Maximum height limits / restrictions: wall height 6.5 m (21 ft), ridge height 9.5 m (31 ft), garage ridge height 3 m (10 ft)
Distance from street to garage: 5 m (16 ft)
Homeowner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof, simple/modern
Basement, floors: basement + full floors
Number of occupants, age: 2 people (29 years + 26 years)
Room requirements on ground floor: kitchen + dining room, living room, WC
Upper floor: bedroom with walk-in closet, bathroom, 2 children’s rooms, storage/guest room, additional WC
Office: family use or home office? Family use
Guests per year: max. 3 (negligible)
Open or closed layout: closed
Conservative or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with dining area
Number of dining seats: 6+
Fireplace: yes (tiled stove)
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why or why not for specific choices
House Design
Who created the plan:
Layout: Do-it-yourself, plan drawn by a well-known draftswoman
What do you particularly like? Why?
- separate entrance area
- window layout
- little space lost in the upper floor corridor
What do you dislike? Why?
- staircase: should be a staircase with a landing, but it is currently not possible due to the office door on the ground floor
- bathroom: only one window
- possibly a second shower in the upper floor bathroom
- south-facing window too wide on the upper floor
- kitchen sliding door to be replaced with a glass door
- basement pipe in the corridor
Price estimate according to architect/designer: -
Personal budget for the house, including fixtures: approx. 450,000 €
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump, hydronic fireplace
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions
- can you give up: ?
- cannot give up: basement, garage, door between hallway and garage
Why does the design look the way it does now?
The draftswoman created the first draft based on a sketch.
So, I’m looking forward to your feedback.
I have been a silent reader of this forum for some time now. Since we are currently planning our single-family home, I decided to register here. Attached is the first draft. We are quite satisfied with the initial room layout.
The only part I haven’t found a solution for yet is the staircase. I would like to have a staircase with a landing inside the house, but this is currently not possible due to the adjacent rooms.
What do you think in general about the room layout? Do you have any tips or ideas on how to design it differently or better?
Here is the relevant information for you:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 663 sqm (approx. 20 x 33 m (66 x 108 ft)) — Plot no. 13
Maximum building size: House: 12 x 10 m (39 x 33 ft), Garage: 7 x 9 m (23 x 30 ft)
Slope: no / flat
Site coverage ratio 0.35
Floor area ratio -
Building plot, building line and boundary: available (see attachment)
Edge development: yes (garage)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style: /
Orientation: specified in the development plan
Maximum height limits / restrictions: wall height 6.5 m (21 ft), ridge height 9.5 m (31 ft), garage ridge height 3 m (10 ft)
Distance from street to garage: 5 m (16 ft)
Homeowner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof, simple/modern
Basement, floors: basement + full floors
Number of occupants, age: 2 people (29 years + 26 years)
Room requirements on ground floor: kitchen + dining room, living room, WC
Upper floor: bedroom with walk-in closet, bathroom, 2 children’s rooms, storage/guest room, additional WC
Office: family use or home office? Family use
Guests per year: max. 3 (negligible)
Open or closed layout: closed
Conservative or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with dining area
Number of dining seats: 6+
Fireplace: yes (tiled stove)
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why or why not for specific choices
House Design
Who created the plan:
Layout: Do-it-yourself, plan drawn by a well-known draftswoman
What do you particularly like? Why?
- separate entrance area
- window layout
- little space lost in the upper floor corridor
What do you dislike? Why?
- staircase: should be a staircase with a landing, but it is currently not possible due to the office door on the ground floor
- bathroom: only one window
- possibly a second shower in the upper floor bathroom
- south-facing window too wide on the upper floor
- kitchen sliding door to be replaced with a glass door
- basement pipe in the corridor
Price estimate according to architect/designer: -
Personal budget for the house, including fixtures: approx. 450,000 €
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump, hydronic fireplace
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions
- can you give up: ?
- cannot give up: basement, garage, door between hallway and garage
Why does the design look the way it does now?
The draftswoman created the first draft based on a sketch.
So, I’m looking forward to your feedback.
Yes, it’s hardly worth listing all the problems one by one. It simply needs to be started from scratch.
But for the skeptics here, just a few major issues:
- The huge basement resembles a nuclear bunker. What do you want to use it for? Are you moles?
- The staircase takes up the space where you would expect access to the terrace/garden.
- The kitchen/dining area is too small, while there are tons of storage rooms.
- The office and guest room are a joke – basically just additional storage rooms.
- The office isn’t needed at all – it was probably just a leftover corner.
- Two staircases to the basement – that’s one way to waste money.
- A toilet and small bathroom in the basement will almost certainly require a sewage lift – who wants that?
- The positioning of the house on the plot is still somewhat unclear. Where is the terrace supposed to be?
- And so on.
But for the skeptics here, just a few major issues:
- The huge basement resembles a nuclear bunker. What do you want to use it for? Are you moles?
- The staircase takes up the space where you would expect access to the terrace/garden.
- The kitchen/dining area is too small, while there are tons of storage rooms.
- The office and guest room are a joke – basically just additional storage rooms.
- The office isn’t needed at all – it was probably just a leftover corner.
- Two staircases to the basement – that’s one way to waste money.
- A toilet and small bathroom in the basement will almost certainly require a sewage lift – who wants that?
- The positioning of the house on the plot is still somewhat unclear. Where is the terrace supposed to be?
- And so on.
I am still working on the budget plan
Large garage
XXL basement
2 staircases
2 bathrooms, 2 toilets
Water-based fireplace
The layout shows an imbalance in the room sizes.
For example, the hallway on the ground floor is larger than the storage room and study combined.
The study and guest room simply look like leftover spaces.
Kaho and Kbt09 have also pointed out some issues that should be changed.
Large garage
XXL basement
2 staircases
2 bathrooms, 2 toilets
Water-based fireplace
The layout shows an imbalance in the room sizes.
For example, the hallway on the ground floor is larger than the storage room and study combined.
The study and guest room simply look like leftover spaces.
Kaho and Kbt09 have also pointed out some issues that should be changed.
... plus a basement garage...
Why is so much storage space needed? That’s even more than the actual living area.
@kaho674 summed it up perfectly with their two-line comment.
Sometimes, a questioner has to accept such straightforward truths when the situation is what it is.
That greatly reduces the risk of mistakes during planning.
Why is so much storage space needed? That’s even more than the actual living area.
@kaho674 summed it up perfectly with their two-line comment.
Sometimes, a questioner has to accept such straightforward truths when the situation is what it is.
That greatly reduces the risk of mistakes during planning.
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montessalet14 Jan 2019 07:39Some basic ideas (which are included in the floor plans) can be useful. However, what is currently presented is not ideal.
The basement under the garage will cost you a lot of money: Why do you need such a huge basement? I also don’t see how you can manage all this with a budget of 450,000 euros. The layout and the content of the basement can only be discussed once you know exactly what you want on each floor.
Is there a "requirements list" for the rooms on each floor? If so, I would start there (including room sizes). Only when this list is available can you work on the floor plan. Otherwise, it remains a makeshift solution that may not be very effective. It is also not clear why there is no bathroom with a shower on the ground floor (instead of one in the basement). I assume we don’t have all the information that led to this floor plan.
The third children's bedroom on the upper floor is really too small to be considered a proper bedroom. A lot of space is lost to corridors on the ground floor.
The size of the kitchen/dining/living area is very tight considering the space taken up by hallways. Try marking out the same size in your current home: you will immediately see if it really meets your needs.
Is the driveway to the garage from the northwest? A north arrow on the floor plan would be helpful.
Conclusion: Set the floor plans aside for now and start fresh with your room requirements for each floor. Possibly incorporate one or two ideas from the existing floor plans when redesigning.
The basement under the garage will cost you a lot of money: Why do you need such a huge basement? I also don’t see how you can manage all this with a budget of 450,000 euros. The layout and the content of the basement can only be discussed once you know exactly what you want on each floor.
Is there a "requirements list" for the rooms on each floor? If so, I would start there (including room sizes). Only when this list is available can you work on the floor plan. Otherwise, it remains a makeshift solution that may not be very effective. It is also not clear why there is no bathroom with a shower on the ground floor (instead of one in the basement). I assume we don’t have all the information that led to this floor plan.
The third children's bedroom on the upper floor is really too small to be considered a proper bedroom. A lot of space is lost to corridors on the ground floor.
The size of the kitchen/dining/living area is very tight considering the space taken up by hallways. Try marking out the same size in your current home: you will immediately see if it really meets your needs.
Is the driveway to the garage from the northwest? A north arrow on the floor plan would be helpful.
Conclusion: Set the floor plans aside for now and start fresh with your room requirements for each floor. Possibly incorporate one or two ideas from the existing floor plans when redesigning.
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Obstlerbaum14 Jan 2019 09:09Overall, I am not a big fan of this design either. Are two small home offices really necessary on the ground floor and the upper floor? In my opinion, the basement insulated garage is an excessive luxury and a cost driver. This layout also requires three burglar-proof doors. The kitchen unit would need to be L-shaped along the wall so that you don’t have to eat with only four people for the next 20 years.
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