Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 657 sqm (approx. 23m x 28.5m / 75ft x 94ft)
Slope: Level ground
Site coverage: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Boundary building: Garage may be built on the property line
Number of parking spaces: 2 parking spaces
Maximum heights/limits: Ridge height 10m (33ft), eaves height 6m (20ft)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Urban villa
Basement, floors: No basement, 2 full floors
Number of occupants, age: 2 people, 30 years old, later 2 children
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Office, family use or home office: Family use
Open or closed layout: Open
Traditional or modern construction: Modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Both
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: Yes
Balcony, roof terrace: Balcony
Garage, carport: Double garage
Cistern connected to garden and garage
House Design
Planner: Architect working together with us
What is liked most? Large living/dining area, bay window with garden view, spacious rooms
Estimated price according to architect/planner: Still gathering offers; expected to be between 280k and 300k including the plot
Personal price limit for house including fittings: 350k
Preferred heating technology: Geothermal with probe
Good morning,
I’m reaching out again. We are soon entering the final planning phase. After parting ways 2 ½ months ago with our preferred builder just before signing the contract, we decided to take matters into our own hands. On one hand, to build the house more cost-effectively, and on the other, to tailor it more individually to our wishes without overpaying.
We have already requested and compared quotes for most trades. Some are still missing, for example interior doors, interior and exterior plastering, and stairs. But the shell construction, windows, heating, ventilation, plumbing, carpentry, electrical work, and roofing are already settled.
Soon we would like to submit the building permit application (sometimes called planning permission). Currently, we are finalizing the floor plan with our architect. Since you gave valuable advice a few months ago, I would like to ask for your input again now.
A few notes:
- We have already arranged for the “Sleeping” room on the upper floor to be slightly reduced in favor of the storage room and the children's room in the next plan update.
- The fireplace will be further detailed, and the double door to the living room will be shifted slightly further to the left to enlarge the wall for the living room cabinet.
- The staircase is drawn incorrectly; it should actually be a half-landing staircase.
Notes on the floor plan:
Ground floor:
- Living area: 88.72 sqm (approx. 955 sq ft)
- Usable area: 63.51 sqm (approx. 684 sq ft)
Upper floor:
- Living area: 78.4 sqm (approx. 844 sq ft)
Total:
- Living area: 167.12 sqm (approx. 1,799 sq ft)
- Usable area: 63.51 sqm (approx. 684 sq ft)
I welcome any questions or feedback.
Thank you and best regards,
Michael
Two images have been added to the original thread from the discussion. Regards, Yvonne, Mod
Plot size: 657 sqm (approx. 23m x 28.5m / 75ft x 94ft)
Slope: Level ground
Site coverage: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Boundary building: Garage may be built on the property line
Number of parking spaces: 2 parking spaces
Maximum heights/limits: Ridge height 10m (33ft), eaves height 6m (20ft)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Urban villa
Basement, floors: No basement, 2 full floors
Number of occupants, age: 2 people, 30 years old, later 2 children
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Office, family use or home office: Family use
Open or closed layout: Open
Traditional or modern construction: Modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Both
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: Yes
Balcony, roof terrace: Balcony
Garage, carport: Double garage
Cistern connected to garden and garage
House Design
Planner: Architect working together with us
What is liked most? Large living/dining area, bay window with garden view, spacious rooms
Estimated price according to architect/planner: Still gathering offers; expected to be between 280k and 300k including the plot
Personal price limit for house including fittings: 350k
Preferred heating technology: Geothermal with probe
Good morning,
I’m reaching out again. We are soon entering the final planning phase. After parting ways 2 ½ months ago with our preferred builder just before signing the contract, we decided to take matters into our own hands. On one hand, to build the house more cost-effectively, and on the other, to tailor it more individually to our wishes without overpaying.
We have already requested and compared quotes for most trades. Some are still missing, for example interior doors, interior and exterior plastering, and stairs. But the shell construction, windows, heating, ventilation, plumbing, carpentry, electrical work, and roofing are already settled.
Soon we would like to submit the building permit application (sometimes called planning permission). Currently, we are finalizing the floor plan with our architect. Since you gave valuable advice a few months ago, I would like to ask for your input again now.
A few notes:
- We have already arranged for the “Sleeping” room on the upper floor to be slightly reduced in favor of the storage room and the children's room in the next plan update.
- The fireplace will be further detailed, and the double door to the living room will be shifted slightly further to the left to enlarge the wall for the living room cabinet.
- The staircase is drawn incorrectly; it should actually be a half-landing staircase.
Notes on the floor plan:
Ground floor:
- Living area: 88.72 sqm (approx. 955 sq ft)
- Usable area: 63.51 sqm (approx. 684 sq ft)
Upper floor:
- Living area: 78.4 sqm (approx. 844 sq ft)
Total:
- Living area: 167.12 sqm (approx. 1,799 sq ft)
- Usable area: 63.51 sqm (approx. 684 sq ft)
I welcome any questions or feedback.
Thank you and best regards,
Michael
Two images have been added to the original thread from the discussion. Regards, Yvonne, Mod
Did I miss something, or is the technical room located in the living room? Seriously though... where are the utility connections and heating supposed to go?
Is there going to be a shower in the toilet? Otherwise, it seems quite large.
In my opinion, the bathroom upstairs is difficult to furnish.
You should reconsider the bay window.
I find some of the room shapes very awkward and cramped—for example, how do you plan to furnish the storage room?
The entire design feels inconsistent. Please furnish the whole plan completely.
Is there going to be a shower in the toilet? Otherwise, it seems quite large.
In my opinion, the bathroom upstairs is difficult to furnish.
You should reconsider the bay window.
I find some of the room shapes very awkward and cramped—for example, how do you plan to furnish the storage room?
The entire design feels inconsistent. Please furnish the whole plan completely.
Invi85 schrieb:
It will probably be between 280k and 300k including the plot of land That will be difficult
BeHaElJa schrieb:
Did I miss something, or is the equipment moving into the living room? Seriously though... where will the utility connections and heating go? A geothermal heat pump requires less space than a washing machine. A 9sqm (97 sq ft) utility room should be sufficient.
BeHaElJa schrieb:
Is there going to be a shower in the bathroom? Otherwise, it seems quite large. Yes, a shower will be installed in the back corner.
BeHaElJa schrieb:
You should reconsider the bay window. Why?
BeHaElJa schrieb:
The entire design feels inconsistent. Please fully furnish it once. I recreated the floor plan in a software and furnished it with our furniture; everything fits as planned.
@alexm86
The plot costs us just under 38,000 € (about $41,000). The rest will go toward the house. Based on our current quotes, the estimate looks quite accurate.
Regards,
Michael
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Watcher7827 Nov 2015 08:57I find most of the rooms simply too narrow; as BeHaElJa already mentioned, they are corridor-like. I don’t like the floor plan. The elevations look okay to me.
At the absolute minimum standard, it might still be feasible, but you need to be very disciplined during the selection process. 38,000 (about 84,000) for the plot, 230,000 (about 507,000) for the house, 20,000 (about 44,000) for the garage, plus at least 35,000 (about 77,000) for additional costs. There’s no way to do everything for 300,000 (about 661,000) all in.
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