Good day. I have been browsing this forum for some time. My wife and I have been comparing offers from prefabricated house manufacturers, architects, and general contractors for nearly six months. Recently, my wife came across a company called Raux, which is located very close by.
When we looked at the houses and the quoted prices, I became a bit suspicious (very inexpensive). Here is the construction and service description. Does this seem accurate, or would we end up paying more later?
Price including basement, excluding painting and flooring work: €198,000 (approx. $213,000)
Can this really be correct?
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When we looked at the houses and the quoted prices, I became a bit suspicious (very inexpensive). Here is the construction and service description. Does this seem accurate, or would we end up paying more later?
Price including basement, excluding painting and flooring work: €198,000 (approx. $213,000)
Can this really be correct?
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Hello,
I have edited your post because it contained advertising and links. Please follow the forum rules! Thank you!
Regards, Building Expert
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Stefan Ruhnau21 Mar 2015 07:40Good morning,
It’s hard to say, or maybe I just missed it. How large is the floor area? You also need to consider that this is an energy saving ordinance house, not a building classified under the KfW standard.
If you could provide a bit more information about your plans, I can give you more input.
It’s hard to say, or maybe I just missed it. How large is the floor area? You also need to consider that this is an energy saving ordinance house, not a building classified under the KfW standard.
If you could provide a bit more information about your plans, I can give you more input.
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Bauexperte21 Mar 2015 09:45Good morning,
At this price/performance ratio, all warning bells should go off... at least yours are already flashing!
You have to assume that such low "bait offers" can only come about by leaving out information—in this case: specifications. Since you say you have already been searching and comparing for some time, you should already be familiar with the realistic price for your preferred single-family house 😉
Best regards, Bauexperte
At this price/performance ratio, all warning bells should go off... at least yours are already flashing!
You have to assume that such low "bait offers" can only come about by leaving out information—in this case: specifications. Since you say you have already been searching and comparing for some time, you should already be familiar with the realistic price for your preferred single-family house 😉
Best regards, Bauexperte
Sorry for the late reply, but after creating my account I was no longer able to open new topics.
Here are the "figures" I have for the house so far:
Living area: 125.70m² (1353 sq ft)
Ground floor: 69.40m² (747 sq ft)
Attic floor: 56.31m² (606 sq ft)
Roof pitch: 25°
Knee wall height: 1.75m (5 ft 9 in)
We have an appointment next Thursday with the company’s manager for an informational meeting. Only then can I provide further details (measurements, etc.).
In the meantime, we have been able to find a few families who have built with this company, and all are satisfied. (Yes, we live in a rural area, so someone always knows someone and can say who built with whom 😀)
However, everyone has also mentioned that the "advertised price" was not realistic because some aspects did not meet today’s standards—for example, no triple-glazed windows. BUT: The additional costs were all within a range of 20,000 to 30,000 euros (which would still bring the total to about 230,000 euros).
As I said, we have now spoken to many representatives, as well as architects, who quoted prices between 250,000 and 320,000 euros just for the house (our specification was around 130m² (1400 sq ft) with a basement, but the basement is only for storage of heating equipment, garden tools, etc., so no office or similar use).
What is the quality like of sand-lime brick panel elements (30cm (12 inches) thick according to the plans and structural engineering)? These are the materials being used, but I have no idea about them (I’m a nurse, not a mason, sorry).
Here are the "figures" I have for the house so far:
Living area: 125.70m² (1353 sq ft)
Ground floor: 69.40m² (747 sq ft)
Attic floor: 56.31m² (606 sq ft)
Roof pitch: 25°
Knee wall height: 1.75m (5 ft 9 in)
We have an appointment next Thursday with the company’s manager for an informational meeting. Only then can I provide further details (measurements, etc.).
In the meantime, we have been able to find a few families who have built with this company, and all are satisfied. (Yes, we live in a rural area, so someone always knows someone and can say who built with whom 😀)
However, everyone has also mentioned that the "advertised price" was not realistic because some aspects did not meet today’s standards—for example, no triple-glazed windows. BUT: The additional costs were all within a range of 20,000 to 30,000 euros (which would still bring the total to about 230,000 euros).
As I said, we have now spoken to many representatives, as well as architects, who quoted prices between 250,000 and 320,000 euros just for the house (our specification was around 130m² (1400 sq ft) with a basement, but the basement is only for storage of heating equipment, garden tools, etc., so no office or similar use).
What is the quality like of sand-lime brick panel elements (30cm (12 inches) thick according to the plans and structural engineering)? These are the materials being used, but I have no idea about them (I’m a nurse, not a mason, sorry).
Here is an excerpt from the scope of work description
1. Masonry work on the ground floor and attic The clear structural height on the ground floor is 2.635m (8 ft 8 in), attic knee wall height according to the plan. The exterior walls will be constructed with sand-lime brick panel elements, thickness 17.5cm (7 inches) or as per plan and structural engineering. Load-bearing interior walls will be built with sand-lime brick panel elements, thickness 17.5cm (7 inches). Non-load-bearing walls will be made of 10cm (4 inches) aerated concrete. All walls will be left unplastered.
2. Ceiling and ground floor staircase The ceiling above the ground floor, as well as the collar beam ceiling over the attic (if applicable), will be constructed as a solid slab (area element slab) in reinforced concrete, according to structural requirements. Edge formwork for the ceiling will be done using shuttering elements. The staircase from the ground floor to the attic will be a reinforced concrete staircase as per the plan and structural engineering.
8. Interior plaster Interior plastering will be carried out by a specialist company on the walls of the ground floor, attic, and stairwell in the basement as a smooth lime-gypsum plaster. The undersides of the reinforced concrete stairs will be filled ready for painting (= painter’s work). Basement rooms with sand-lime brick masonry will have joints filled (= painter’s work). Bathroom walls will be skimmed with tile adhesive (= tiling work).
9. Full thermal insulation system (residential building) Starting from the top edge of the basement or slab. The exterior masonry will receive a mineral top coat over a base coat with 10cm (4 inches) full thermal insulation boards (thermal conductivity 0.035 W/mK) according to energy saving regulations. A roughcast base coat will be applied at the plinth (without final paint). Construction: large sand-lime blocks, expanded polystyrene insulation boards (according to thermal insulation regulations), and a mesh reinforcement with a white mineral finish coat as a scratch render with 3mm grain. Eaves will be painted white again after the exterior plaster is completed.
1. Masonry work on the ground floor and attic The clear structural height on the ground floor is 2.635m (8 ft 8 in), attic knee wall height according to the plan. The exterior walls will be constructed with sand-lime brick panel elements, thickness 17.5cm (7 inches) or as per plan and structural engineering. Load-bearing interior walls will be built with sand-lime brick panel elements, thickness 17.5cm (7 inches). Non-load-bearing walls will be made of 10cm (4 inches) aerated concrete. All walls will be left unplastered.
2. Ceiling and ground floor staircase The ceiling above the ground floor, as well as the collar beam ceiling over the attic (if applicable), will be constructed as a solid slab (area element slab) in reinforced concrete, according to structural requirements. Edge formwork for the ceiling will be done using shuttering elements. The staircase from the ground floor to the attic will be a reinforced concrete staircase as per the plan and structural engineering.
8. Interior plaster Interior plastering will be carried out by a specialist company on the walls of the ground floor, attic, and stairwell in the basement as a smooth lime-gypsum plaster. The undersides of the reinforced concrete stairs will be filled ready for painting (= painter’s work). Basement rooms with sand-lime brick masonry will have joints filled (= painter’s work). Bathroom walls will be skimmed with tile adhesive (= tiling work).
9. Full thermal insulation system (residential building) Starting from the top edge of the basement or slab. The exterior masonry will receive a mineral top coat over a base coat with 10cm (4 inches) full thermal insulation boards (thermal conductivity 0.035 W/mK) according to energy saving regulations. A roughcast base coat will be applied at the plinth (without final paint). Construction: large sand-lime blocks, expanded polystyrene insulation boards (according to thermal insulation regulations), and a mesh reinforcement with a white mineral finish coat as a scratch render with 3mm grain. Eaves will be painted white again after the exterior plaster is completed.
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