ᐅ Cat droppings or wildlife scat? Warning: image of animal droppings!
Created on: 10 Jul 2018 13:03
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andimann
Hello everyone,
(Hope I don’t get banned right away for posting a bunch of crap…)
Some animal is leaving a pile of droppings on our lawn almost every night, strangely always in almost the same spot (plus or minus 2 m (6.5 ft)). At first, I suspected the neighbor’s cat, but the pile seems too large for a cat, right? Also, don’t cats usually go into garden beds rather than right in the middle of the lawn?
Question: Can anyone tell me if this could still be cat droppings? If so, I guess a conversation with the neighbors is due.
I’m getting tired of cleaning it up every morning, and even more worried that my kids might step in it while playing or that my son might try to taste it. My nephew once caught worms that way, which was quite unpleasant. That really shouldn’t happen.
And if it’s something else: what could it be and, above all, how do I get rid of it?
Barbed wire, spring-loaded traps, anti-aircraft guns, nuclear bomb?
Best regards,
Andreas
(Hope I don’t get banned right away for posting a bunch of crap…)
Some animal is leaving a pile of droppings on our lawn almost every night, strangely always in almost the same spot (plus or minus 2 m (6.5 ft)). At first, I suspected the neighbor’s cat, but the pile seems too large for a cat, right? Also, don’t cats usually go into garden beds rather than right in the middle of the lawn?
Question: Can anyone tell me if this could still be cat droppings? If so, I guess a conversation with the neighbors is due.
I’m getting tired of cleaning it up every morning, and even more worried that my kids might step in it while playing or that my son might try to taste it. My nephew once caught worms that way, which was quite unpleasant. That really shouldn’t happen.
And if it’s something else: what could it be and, above all, how do I get rid of it?
Barbed wire, spring-loaded traps, anti-aircraft guns, nuclear bomb?
Best regards,
Andreas
andimann schrieb:
Hello,
Yes, you can. Come by and take a look at the neighbor’s cat! However, the owners belong to the top 1% of dog owners (they have both a dog and a cat) who truly understand how animals work and have trained them very, very, very well.
Best regards,
AndreasThat’s lucky. I have had both for a long time. The best situation was with the litter that only knew the dog and this two-legged creature with a bottle as their mother. However, my cats bury their feces. Teaching hand-raised animals that is not always easy.
Having your own pets helps the most. Dogs can even help deter martens. Cats typically do not confront martens. Raccoons and cats usually live in peaceful coexistence, while dogs are generally kept indoors at night.
Above all, which droppings do you want to assign to which animal? Neighbor’s cat A or B, stray cat, marten, fox, dog, or raccoon?
By the way, at our place raccoons do not tip over the trash bins. They are present, though—I have had nocturnal visitors.
Cat feces are not that hazardous. At least, I do not know anyone here who got sick from them. Rat and mouse droppings are a different matter altogether.
Steven schrieb:
Hello ypg
A cat is an animal, just like a dog. Shouldn't exactly the same rights or responsibilities apply to both? Or do you see yourself as a cat owner with special privileges, where destructive interference with nature is acceptable for you but not for dog owners?
StevenAside from the fact that I probably don’t have cats when I say I don’t like them…
Animals are legally classified as property, yes!
But you can’t just lump different animal species together. What worked for Noah doesn’t apply here.
andimann schrieb:
Dear ypg,
I basically like cats, even though we don’t have one ourselves.
But:
Where exactly am I being intolerant if I don’t want to clean up cat droppings every day (again, it is not even clear if these are cat droppings!!) ? Should I start throwing my son’s diapers over your fence every day? Would you tolerate that?
Best regards,
AndreasIf a person actively throws something into my garden, that’s a whole different matter than an animal with an owner leaving droppings somewhere because it doesn’t understand private property!
I expect different responses here than—sorry—stupid comparisons.
I thought your earlier comment about wanting to wait and see was quite reasonable.
Anyway: enjoy your garden—preferably from indoors.
There’s always something to get worked up about… after all, it’s summer slow news season.
Steven schrieb:
Hello evolith
replace the word cat with dog in your post.
Would that be okay with you?
So, let’s say a dog from the neighborhood defecates in your garden every day. The neighbor says, “I can’t do anything about it. The dog is just untrainable.” Wouldn’t it be normal for me to deal with the dog that is causing the problem? As I said, on my own property. And I have several options: a garden hose with a strong spray, a slingshot with steel balls, or even a shovel. The dog is the cause, and this cause harms me daily. So I solve the problem in a way that promises a solution, since the owner responsible offers no attempt to fix it.
StevenNo, unfortunately that doesn’t work. As already mentioned, you can’t equate dogs with cats (legally and biologically).
If your neighbor lets their dog run on your property (no matter what it does), you may even have the legal right to require them (depending on the severity) to prevent it.
With cats, you don’t have this option! They are allowed to roam freely. You are legally required to tolerate this, as long as they don’t soil every square meter of your garden.
Harming the animal with, for example, steel projectiles is illegal and counts as animal cruelty. Besides, you would be committing property damage.
Don’t get me wrong. I understand your point of view. I would be annoyed if the neighbor’s cat messed in my garden too. My three cats behave well at the neighbor’s place. He has soft sand in his driveway, which they love. If I catch them in the act, I shoo them away; if I see anything left behind, I clean it up. That’s all I can do. The neighbor’s child and my own play in that sand. My older child (3 1/2 years old) has the task to dispose of every mess he or the others find. So far, this has happened only twice.
In return, my three “terminators” kill hordes of mice and rats, which the whole neighborhood appreciates.
[QUOTE="Evolith, post: 269608, member: 26764 you are not allowed to equate dogs with cats (legally speaking). With a cat, you do not have this option! Cats are allowed to roam freely. You are legally required to tolerate that.]
Hello Evolith
That is not entirely correct and only partially supported by law. Still, it is no more than superficial knowledge. Dogs and cats are considered property. If you kill a dog or a cat because that is the only way to prevent damage, it is at most property damage. You have a reason to kill the animal, so animal cruelty is ruled out in such cases.
You are correct to some extent in that case law currently treats cats as animals that enjoy freedom, similar to dogs. It is generally tolerated (I believe up to 3 cats) that cats cross your property. However, this must not result in any restrictions. Feces on your property is such a restriction and, if proven, courts usually order the cat owner to prevent this. This is usually only possible by not allowing the cat to roam freely outdoors anymore or by securing the property to make it cat-proof to prevent escape. If this does not happen, the person responsible (the cat owner) will be fined.
Steven
Hello Evolith
That is not entirely correct and only partially supported by law. Still, it is no more than superficial knowledge. Dogs and cats are considered property. If you kill a dog or a cat because that is the only way to prevent damage, it is at most property damage. You have a reason to kill the animal, so animal cruelty is ruled out in such cases.
You are correct to some extent in that case law currently treats cats as animals that enjoy freedom, similar to dogs. It is generally tolerated (I believe up to 3 cats) that cats cross your property. However, this must not result in any restrictions. Feces on your property is such a restriction and, if proven, courts usually order the cat owner to prevent this. This is usually only possible by not allowing the cat to roam freely outdoors anymore or by securing the property to make it cat-proof to prevent escape. If this does not happen, the person responsible (the cat owner) will be fined.
Steven
Evolith schrieb:
My three Terminators take care of loads of mice and rats, which the whole neighborhood appreciates.How many birds do your three Terminators kill?
It’s probably comparable to the mice and rats, and likely in the high three-digit range annually.
Steven
Steven schrieb:
How many birds do your 3 Terminators kill?
Certainly comparable to the mice and rats and likely in the high triple digits per year.
Steven For ours, I would estimate that for every 300 mice, there is one bird. It could, of course, be due to clumsiness.
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