Hello,
I’m currently seriously considering buying a wood stove to heat the house in case of emergency. If placed in a good location, like a stairwell or similar, it can provide quite a bit of warmth for a small house.
At the current rate, fossil fuels will soon be worth their weight in gold.
I’d like to know what others who still heat with fossil fuels think about this. Photovoltaics and solar panels can’t be installed quickly or without significant investment, and electricity for heat pumps isn’t getting any cheaper either.
Firewood can usually be found somewhere for free, so I’m planning to use the summer to install a fireplace as a backup.
Good luck
I’m currently seriously considering buying a wood stove to heat the house in case of emergency. If placed in a good location, like a stairwell or similar, it can provide quite a bit of warmth for a small house.
At the current rate, fossil fuels will soon be worth their weight in gold.
I’d like to know what others who still heat with fossil fuels think about this. Photovoltaics and solar panels can’t be installed quickly or without significant investment, and electricity for heat pumps isn’t getting any cheaper either.
Firewood can usually be found somewhere for free, so I’m planning to use the summer to install a fireplace as a backup.
Good luck
Wood prices for firewood logs are rising. Currently, one cubic meter (stere) of firewood logs for self-pickup costs about 70 euros, though sometimes you can still find some for 50 to 60 euros.
To roughly estimate the demand – it always depends on the quality of the wood. According to LWF Bayern, 15,000 kWh is contained in 1,500 liters of heating oil, 3 tons of pellets, or – depending on the type of wood – 8 to 10 steres (cubic meters) of firewood logs (15% moisture content).
It will take a few years of heating with firewood for the purchase of the stove and chimney to pay off, even with the currently soaring prices.
In addition, storage space is required, wood creates dirt, and heating with wood involves more work than simply turning up the thermostat.
Wood radiates a pleasant warmth.
To roughly estimate the demand – it always depends on the quality of the wood. According to LWF Bayern, 15,000 kWh is contained in 1,500 liters of heating oil, 3 tons of pellets, or – depending on the type of wood – 8 to 10 steres (cubic meters) of firewood logs (15% moisture content).
It will take a few years of heating with firewood for the purchase of the stove and chimney to pay off, even with the currently soaring prices.
In addition, storage space is required, wood creates dirt, and heating with wood involves more work than simply turning up the thermostat.
Wood radiates a pleasant warmth.
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Pinkiponk9 Mar 2022 09:32Reinhard84.2 schrieb:
...We will also take this on, possibly even later this year, or at least in the near future. Especially since I assume that, no matter how the developments and political intentions are formulated and enacted into laws here in Germany, it will generally be more difficult to ban something "in existing buildings" than to permit it "for new construction." Moreover, what is allowed or prohibited always depends on the government in power.As silly as it may sound, I also think it’s good that in an emergency you can warm up a soup on such a stove. For this reason, I’m glad that we will soon have a garden again, in case the worst really happens in Germany.
By the way, I’m referring to a wood stove in the living room. Apparently, there are differences, as some of the respected previous commenters have noted.
Hello,
I would also recommend trying to place the stove in the living room and then leave the door to the stairwell open. For effective heating, it should be an air-independent stove; otherwise, you will always need to keep a window open somewhere. A good stove with a chimney will quickly cost you around 5,000€ or more.
As a truly permanent heating support, a wood-burning stove is not ideal; a well-built masonry heater would be much better. But then we are talking about 15,000€ or more.
From the perspective of an "emergency heating" solution, it’s definitely not a bad idea. If Putin keeps causing trouble, I wouldn’t be surprised if here in Germany we also have to expect power and/or gas network outages next winter. But don’t count on getting any free firewood then…!
Best regards,
Andreas
I would also recommend trying to place the stove in the living room and then leave the door to the stairwell open. For effective heating, it should be an air-independent stove; otherwise, you will always need to keep a window open somewhere. A good stove with a chimney will quickly cost you around 5,000€ or more.
As a truly permanent heating support, a wood-burning stove is not ideal; a well-built masonry heater would be much better. But then we are talking about 15,000€ or more.
From the perspective of an "emergency heating" solution, it’s definitely not a bad idea. If Putin keeps causing trouble, I wouldn’t be surprised if here in Germany we also have to expect power and/or gas network outages next winter. But don’t count on getting any free firewood then…!
Best regards,
Andreas
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fach1werk9 Mar 2022 10:51Well, I’m thinking about the same topic. Here on the edge of the Black Forest, you can usually get wood easily, although of course it’s not getting any cheaper. Our five-year-old house doesn’t have a chimney. We could only place a convection stove on the underfloor heating; I wouldn’t dare to do more than that initially. We don’t have an unused spot for a stove because we have very few walls. We have a gas boiler and modest solar thermal panels. Considering what we could financially invest at this moment, if the gas really is to be replaced, it seems too much to risk and too little to live on. Photovoltaic panels and a 1000L (264 gallons) storage tank—that’s one of the things I’m thinking about. To place a solid fuel burner as a switch-over option next to the gas boiler, while adding a chimney on top. But honestly, those times are over.
The log wood stove with a stainless steel chimney is still the smallest expense, especially since you have to assume it’s just a backup and that this type of heating is already outdated. At least 10m (33 feet) of wood in front of the little house, although I don’t really like to see it anywhere other than on the delicate house wall. Sometimes I miss the advantages of our medieval house, which offered plenty of reserve capacity in many ways.
My husband thinks that worrying about this is paranoid and unnecessary. Still, it occupies my mind.
The log wood stove with a stainless steel chimney is still the smallest expense, especially since you have to assume it’s just a backup and that this type of heating is already outdated. At least 10m (33 feet) of wood in front of the little house, although I don’t really like to see it anywhere other than on the delicate house wall. Sometimes I miss the advantages of our medieval house, which offered plenty of reserve capacity in many ways.
My husband thinks that worrying about this is paranoid and unnecessary. Still, it occupies my mind.
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motorradsilke9 Mar 2022 12:54Myrna_Loy schrieb:
And the local chimney inspector.
I also assume that private wood stoves will no longer be permitted in the near future, as they contribute significantly to environmental pollution. They check the remaining moisture content every few years. Showing them good-quality wood helps.
I expect that approved systems will still be allowed to operate for quite some time, since from 2023 (or 2024) they must meet much stricter emission limits, which can only be achieved with filters on older systems.
If you look at classifieds, there are often good deals. Used one-way pallets, for example, are sometimes given away or sold for about 10 euros per cubic meter, already cut into smaller pieces. Or after recent storms, lots of fresh wood is offered for free.
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