Hello everyone,
We are just starting the shell construction of our project, a KfW55 single-family house, turnkey.
We are installing a fireplace and are currently deciding which wood-burning stove to choose. Due to long delivery times and rising prices, we would like to buy a stove soon.
The stove will be connected to the chimney in the living room. The living and dining rooms are open-plan and together are about 35 sqm (375 sq ft). The house will have underfloor heating, an air-source heat pump, and no central ventilation system. The stove is primarily intended to create a cozy atmosphere.
We have already visited two stores, but the advice was not very helpful. It seemed more like they wanted to sell stoves from manufacturers they have contracts with, which weren’t necessarily suitable for our situation.
The first stove offered was a Rika model called "Nex," with a nominal output of 8 kW. According to the dealer, it could also be operated at 4 kW by using less wood. This stove could also be ordered with a 6 kW rating, but the dealer said it was identical to the 8 kW model, just with a different label.
We like this stove’s design very much, but we wonder if we received proper advice and whether an 8 kW stove makes sense for our relatively small living/dining area.
In the meantime, I have done a lot of research online, and the general consensus seems to be that a stove with a lower nominal output, around 4 kW, would be more appropriate for our size.
I found some models from Justus, for example the Mino Top 2.0—which is roughly the design we like—though it already has a nominal output of 5.5 kW.
Now I see that Justus stoves are also sold at Obi, but "DIY store quality" is generally not recommended. Besides, I wouldn’t know who would install it if we buy from a hardware store.
Through a post in another forum, I came across Morsoe stoves, specifically the model 7343 with 4.3 kW, which might be a good fit and likely not "DIY store quality."
At another dealer, we were shown models by the Czech manufacturer Romotop, namely the Laredo F 02 and 04a, each with 4.0 kW, but the door and handle felt less high-quality.
At this point, I’m quite unsure which direction to take with the stove purchase. What would you recommend? Does buying from a DIY store make sense and how would installation be handled? Which brands, models, and nominal outputs can you recommend? Our budget limit is around 3,000 euros plus installation, chimney pipe connection, combustion air connection, and delivery.
I would be very grateful for any guidance and concrete recommendations.
Best regards,
Sandra
We are just starting the shell construction of our project, a KfW55 single-family house, turnkey.
We are installing a fireplace and are currently deciding which wood-burning stove to choose. Due to long delivery times and rising prices, we would like to buy a stove soon.
The stove will be connected to the chimney in the living room. The living and dining rooms are open-plan and together are about 35 sqm (375 sq ft). The house will have underfloor heating, an air-source heat pump, and no central ventilation system. The stove is primarily intended to create a cozy atmosphere.
We have already visited two stores, but the advice was not very helpful. It seemed more like they wanted to sell stoves from manufacturers they have contracts with, which weren’t necessarily suitable for our situation.
The first stove offered was a Rika model called "Nex," with a nominal output of 8 kW. According to the dealer, it could also be operated at 4 kW by using less wood. This stove could also be ordered with a 6 kW rating, but the dealer said it was identical to the 8 kW model, just with a different label.
We like this stove’s design very much, but we wonder if we received proper advice and whether an 8 kW stove makes sense for our relatively small living/dining area.
In the meantime, I have done a lot of research online, and the general consensus seems to be that a stove with a lower nominal output, around 4 kW, would be more appropriate for our size.
I found some models from Justus, for example the Mino Top 2.0—which is roughly the design we like—though it already has a nominal output of 5.5 kW.
Now I see that Justus stoves are also sold at Obi, but "DIY store quality" is generally not recommended. Besides, I wouldn’t know who would install it if we buy from a hardware store.
Through a post in another forum, I came across Morsoe stoves, specifically the model 7343 with 4.3 kW, which might be a good fit and likely not "DIY store quality."
At another dealer, we were shown models by the Czech manufacturer Romotop, namely the Laredo F 02 and 04a, each with 4.0 kW, but the door and handle felt less high-quality.
At this point, I’m quite unsure which direction to take with the stove purchase. What would you recommend? Does buying from a DIY store make sense and how would installation be handled? Which brands, models, and nominal outputs can you recommend? Our budget limit is around 3,000 euros plus installation, chimney pipe connection, combustion air connection, and delivery.
I would be very grateful for any guidance and concrete recommendations.
Best regards,
Sandra
aero2016 schrieb:
You don’t have a base plate? Did it work for you without one?Yes… we have a rounded glass plate that we put away during the summer months.M
motorradsilke28 Mar 2022 06:55A wood-burning stove isn’t really built in. During construction, the chimney gets a hole at the spot where you want to connect the stove pipe. If the chimney isn’t located directly in the room, a hole may also need to be made in the wall. Once you know the exact height for this, the general contractor can take care of it.
You then just place the stove, assemble the pipes accordingly, seal the connection at the chimney (a double-walled collar is installed there), and that’s it. Afterward, have the chimney inspector approve the installation. All the necessary pipes can be purchased at a hardware store.
It’s more important to clarify with the chimney inspector beforehand what type of stove you are allowed to install. Do you need a room-sealed stove or is an open-flue model permitted?
Will you have a recirculating range hood? If so, special window contacts are required.
So, the first step is to talk to the chimney inspector.
You then just place the stove, assemble the pipes accordingly, seal the connection at the chimney (a double-walled collar is installed there), and that’s it. Afterward, have the chimney inspector approve the installation. All the necessary pipes can be purchased at a hardware store.
It’s more important to clarify with the chimney inspector beforehand what type of stove you are allowed to install. Do you need a room-sealed stove or is an open-flue model permitted?
Will you have a recirculating range hood? If so, special window contacts are required.
So, the first step is to talk to the chimney inspector.
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fach1werk28 Mar 2022 08:00We are currently installing a wood stove in our five-year-old house.
At the moment, the permitted fine dust emissions are still set at 80 ppm. In 2024, this limit will be tightened to 40 ppm. I asked the chimney sweep: the next tightening step after that will not focus on ppm levels but on an automatic control of combustion, which can also be mechanical. This reduces high emissions caused by user errors. He generally recommended an outside air supply.
8 kW is far too much, and you probably don’t want to add wood every half hour.
Even 4 kW is quite a lot, but it’s rare to find less than that.
Our stove is from Nide in Sweden. The combustion air control is purely mechanical using a bimetal strip. The delivery time was 4-5 months two weeks ago. One week later, it increased to 6-7 months, but I insisted on a demonstration model for specific reasons, so it didn’t affect us.
Buying firewood was more like hunting than purchasing. It took me several days to find some, and I only just managed with a bit of luck.
Best regards, Gabriele
At the moment, the permitted fine dust emissions are still set at 80 ppm. In 2024, this limit will be tightened to 40 ppm. I asked the chimney sweep: the next tightening step after that will not focus on ppm levels but on an automatic control of combustion, which can also be mechanical. This reduces high emissions caused by user errors. He generally recommended an outside air supply.
8 kW is far too much, and you probably don’t want to add wood every half hour.
Even 4 kW is quite a lot, but it’s rare to find less than that.
Our stove is from Nide in Sweden. The combustion air control is purely mechanical using a bimetal strip. The delivery time was 4-5 months two weeks ago. One week later, it increased to 6-7 months, but I insisted on a demonstration model for specific reasons, so it didn’t affect us.
Buying firewood was more like hunting than purchasing. It took me several days to find some, and I only just managed with a bit of luck.
Best regards, Gabriele
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Sandra.M8528 Mar 2022 19:10Hello,
thank you very much for all the contributions so far!
Do you have any other specific suggestions besides the already recommended "Skantherm Elements S" (I can only find a "Skantherm Emotion S," but no Elements S, maybe a typo)?
That one looks very nice, but with a price of 3500 euros plus installation and ductwork, it somewhat exceeds our budget.
thank you very much for all the contributions so far!
Do you have any other specific suggestions besides the already recommended "Skantherm Elements S" (I can only find a "Skantherm Emotion S," but no Elements S, maybe a typo)?
That one looks very nice, but with a price of 3500 euros plus installation and ductwork, it somewhat exceeds our budget.
Sandra.M85 schrieb:
Hello,
thank you for all the contributions so far!
Do you have any other specific recommendations besides the already suggested "Skantherm Elements S" (I only found a "Skantherm Emotion S," but no Elements S, maybe a typo)?
That model looks great, but at a price of 3500 euros plus installation and piping, it is somewhat beyond our budget. Sorry, of course I meant Emotion S.
The Skantherm Elements is a square, modular system, also very nice, but it requires more space and costs more 🙂
Regarding the price: just do some online searching and comparison; that’s how we found our dealer. We went there for advice and to take a look, and then managed to negotiate a special price because we also ordered two garden sheds at the same time (it’s called an outlet and sells wood stoves in winter and garden furniture in summer).
I have owned a Hark stove from Obi for 17 years and can’t say anything negative about it. Although the stove is used almost 200 days a year due to its location inside and relative to the house, so far only the sealing rope needed replacement, and now the vermiculite panels are starting to crack. You don’t have to buy from the most expensive specialty store, and no professional installation is necessary. After consulting with the chimney sweep, you just set it up and connect the pipes. The atmosphere can also be created with wine, whiskey, or a partner, depending on your preferences. How the emission standards and regulations will be implemented in 2024 is still unknown.
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