ᐅ Are Ethernet ports still relevant today? Wi-Fi and wireless connections are the future!
Created on: 29 Jan 2020 21:06
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Hello fellow cable enthusiasts and Wi-Fi addicts,
I already confessed in the SAT discussion that I consider coax outlets and satellite dishes completely outdated since entertainment is streamed nowadays, and I’m not planning to include them in our new build (more on that in the SAT discussion). But that’s not what this is about.
Right now, I’m trying to smartly distribute LAN duplex Cat 6a and Cat7 cable outlets throughout the rooms (1st floor: 2 kids’ rooms, kids’ bathroom, master bedroom, dressing room, master bathroom, hallway; 2nd floor: open living/dining/kitchen area, hallway, entrance area, guest restroom).
On one hand, I feel like none of the rooms really fit the outlets perfectly, like: “the desk could go here…” But what if the TV ends up in that corner instead?
On the other hand, I’m looking at our current devices and very few still have LAN ports: MacBooks, iPhones, tablets, or devices that have LAN options but mostly connect via Wi-Fi anyway, like Sonos, printers, TVs.
So the question arises whether LAN ports in rooms are still that important today. I’m not talking about the Wi-Fi access points, which of course should be connected via LAN in a convenient location, or special cases like PoE cameras and door intercoms. I’m mainly referring to the LAN outlets in individual rooms. Most end devices are mobile anyway, and the outlets will be in the wrong place 99% of the time.
I read (yes, I spent some time researching this) that the cost of LAN outlets is negligible. Well, if I install duplex outlets in all those questionable locations, the cost for switches and everything else adds up to a nice chunk.
I would be interested in your opinion on this. Since I am straightforwardly skipping any traditional TV (in our case only satellite would be possible) and the corresponding connections, wouldn’t it be consistent to also counteract the outlet overload regarding LAN?
Looking forward to your comments, thanks!
I already confessed in the SAT discussion that I consider coax outlets and satellite dishes completely outdated since entertainment is streamed nowadays, and I’m not planning to include them in our new build (more on that in the SAT discussion). But that’s not what this is about.
Right now, I’m trying to smartly distribute LAN duplex Cat 6a and Cat7 cable outlets throughout the rooms (1st floor: 2 kids’ rooms, kids’ bathroom, master bedroom, dressing room, master bathroom, hallway; 2nd floor: open living/dining/kitchen area, hallway, entrance area, guest restroom).
On one hand, I feel like none of the rooms really fit the outlets perfectly, like: “the desk could go here…” But what if the TV ends up in that corner instead?
On the other hand, I’m looking at our current devices and very few still have LAN ports: MacBooks, iPhones, tablets, or devices that have LAN options but mostly connect via Wi-Fi anyway, like Sonos, printers, TVs.
So the question arises whether LAN ports in rooms are still that important today. I’m not talking about the Wi-Fi access points, which of course should be connected via LAN in a convenient location, or special cases like PoE cameras and door intercoms. I’m mainly referring to the LAN outlets in individual rooms. Most end devices are mobile anyway, and the outlets will be in the wrong place 99% of the time.
I read (yes, I spent some time researching this) that the cost of LAN outlets is negligible. Well, if I install duplex outlets in all those questionable locations, the cost for switches and everything else adds up to a nice chunk.
I would be interested in your opinion on this. Since I am straightforwardly skipping any traditional TV (in our case only satellite would be possible) and the corresponding connections, wouldn’t it be consistent to also counteract the outlet overload regarding LAN?
Looking forward to your comments, thanks!
Stefan2.84 schrieb:
I haven’t decided yet whether to use double or single sockets—it depends on the room. The main thing is to address the double sockets like two single sockets: so as a double socket with two corresponding cables. Keep in mind using two devices in separate VLANs and possibly mixing one with PoE and one without.
Stefan2.84 schrieb:
Telephone sockets are outdated, as far as I’ve learned. Is DECT the only option left? Telephone sockets, meaning ISDN or just phone/fax lines, are outdated. Universal telephone sockets for voice and non-voice data devices are called network sockets. Not wiring is outdated, as is the old separation of ICT into IT and incompatible telecoms like in the days when ERGO was still Hamburg Mannheimer.
Nordlys schrieb:
In my opinion, Cisco produces affordable IP phones with Ethernet connections instead of TAE. However, these are wired office devices. That sounds a bit misleading, as if TAE is just a different connector type. Actually, a landline phone can connect to the network socket as an IP-DECT/cat.iq phone. That means, at the outlet—in a socket with PoE—you can connect a cordless IP phone with its own DECT/cat.iq base station. From the Fritzbox’s perspective, this is an IP endpoint because the handset communicates via its own base station. The base station acts as an access point for one or more handsets, regardless of whether they have separate charging cradles. I would put them on a voice VLAN. For example, the Gigaset DX800 can also connect mobile phones as handsets—if mostly only grandparents use the landline, dedicated cordless landline phones hardly make sense. Personally, I also keep a corded phone (e.g., that Gigaset) on my desk.
Stefan2.84 schrieb:
For the access point, a network socket? I thought I could just let the cable come out of the wall/ceiling and then connect the access point via PoE?!? I don’t understand the question: first, why shouldn’t the access point be plugged in, and second, what does PoE have to do with whether it’s plugged in or hardwired?
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Stefan2.8427 Feb 2020 07:0911ant schrieb:
I don’t understand the question: first, why shouldn’t the access point be connected via a plug-in connection, and second, what does PoE have to do with whether it’s plug-in or hardwired? I misunderstood at first. My question is now resolved. I got it.
11ant schrieb:
The main thing is that you control the double outlets as two separate outlets: so as a double with two cables accordingly. Yes.
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Stefan2.8427 Feb 2020 07:45One more quick question. Depending on what the electrician understands the telephone connection mentioned in the building specification to be, it might end up being unnecessary. I could still have the work done, but install empty conduits instead of telephone cables. This should only result in a small additional cost at most. According to the building specification, similar work would have to be carried out anyway. Or am I misunderstanding something?
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Stefan2.8427 Feb 2020 08:31Mycraft schrieb:
No, you understand correctly. Basically, the telephone cable should be laid inside the conduit anyway. So there shouldn’t be any additional costs if you have the work done but leave out the telephone cable and the outlet.That’s good to know. Of course, it might be necessary to use a conduit with a larger diameter. But the work itself is the same. This will help me make a solid argument.
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