ᐅ Floor plans for a single-family house with a separate apartment, 280 m² on a compact 320 m² plot

Created on: 29 Aug 2022 11:51
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medow1982
Hello everyone,
attached is our project with a request for suggestions for improvement, especially regarding the interior layout. The building permit application is currently in process, so please avoid complete redesign proposals for the building envelope, entrance, etc. Doors and walls can still be adjusted inside.

And yes, we are fully aware that this is a small constrained plot with limited garden space, but this is all we have here and we’re happy with it!

Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 310 m2 (3,337 sq ft)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5–2
Roof type: 45-degree gable roof
Orientation: SW
Additional requirements: Must be attached to neighbors and adapted accordingly. Changes to roof shape, knee wall height, number of floors, etc. are not possible!

Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Attached house, adapted to neighbors. This is restricted. Open floor plan. Flexible for aging occupants.
Basement, floors: Basement = self-contained apartment according to regional building codes, with separate entrance for permanent rental in the basement.
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults + 2 children (4 and 1 year old), basement apartment: either 2 people or a shared office for 2 to max. 6 people
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: at least 120 m2 (1,292 sq ft). We have 165 m2 (1,776 sq ft) + 18 m2 (194 sq ft), so more than needed.
Office: Family use or home office? All three desired. One mixed-use room for home office and guests planned on the ground floor.
Guest sleepers per year: maximum 2, 1–3 times per year
Modern construction style
Open kitchen, kitchen island: possibly
Number of dining seats: 1
Fireplace: no
Balcony: yes, roof terrace: no due to neighbors
Garage, carport: no, only 2 parking spaces and storage rooms on the floors. One parking space will be realized with grass pavers and a sliding gate so that the garden visually appears larger.

House Design
Who designed the plan: 2 years of our own planning, final design approved by an architect as feasible.
- Planner from a construction company: yes
- Architect: yes
What do you particularly like? Why: We planned 3 separate living units so that we can live on the ground floor as we get older and the kids move upstairs or we can rent it out. A barrier-free ground floor was very important to us. In case of emergency, we can also rent out the ground and upper floors. Only the basement apartment is planned for rental; ground and upper floors for own use.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: approx. 1 million €
Preferred heating system: Air-to-water heat pump, split system for cost reasons. 8 kWp solar system, 2 centralized ventilation systems. Basement made of concrete + Styrodur insulation, ground and upper floors with Poroton T7-MW 36.5 bricks. Soundproofing and increased living space were priorities, and unfortunately, we no longer qualify for KfW40+ funding. We simply didn’t have enough time for the KfW40+ NH standard because interest rates have risen sharply.

If you have to give up something, which details or expansions?
- Can give up: definitely the garage. We don’t own a car and use car sharing, which works well for the family. We can occasionally use a garage and shed on the neighboring property.
- Cannot give up: terrace, garden, balcony

Why is the design as it is now?
For example, standard design from planner? No, everything developed by us. Strong restrictions due to attachment to neighbors and limits on ridge height, roof shape, and height of the adjoining building. “Wish for” options are hardly possible here since the house must be attached to the neighbor.
Which wishes did the architect implement? Most of them.
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? We have a very small plot and limited freedom in terms of shape, but in our opinion, we made the best of it. For cost reasons, we omitted Gutex insulation in the roof. We only have the attic peak, the bathroom, and one room with a sloping ceiling (knee wall height 1.38 m (4 ft 6 in)).
According to the site manager, this should not lead to extreme overheating, but we might still install it depending on feedback. The attic is open and connected to the ventilation system, so air in the basement will be mixed via the heat exchanger anyway. My parents also don’t have Gutex insulation in their prefab home from the 1980s, and yes, the attic gets quite warm but not over 35°C (95°F). We planned to compensate with blinds but are still unsure.
Additionally, we plan to convert the kitchen on the ground floor into a living room as we age and relocate the kitchen accordingly. Everything is optional, and planned with flexible plumbing. In the basement, we might still plan another room but are unsure of the location.

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?

Is the size of the bathroom and hallway sufficient, or should we have it adjusted?
In the basement, we will add a south-facing window on the left side to brighten the basement apartment. This will reduce privacy and garden space but should please the basement occupants.

Plot plan with house, garden, terrace, driveway, and entrance.


Multi-part construction drawings of a house: views southeast, southwest, northwest, northeast, and section.


Four floor plans of a house: basement, ground floor, upper floor, and attic.
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medow1982
29 Aug 2022 19:56
ypg schrieb:

But that also applies “after the building application.”
Basically, there was probably more possible overall. Making changes now is like renovating a listed building... but okay, it should please you.

The granny flat will find a tenant as well. I actually find the layout of the granny flat more practical than the ground floor, where there isn’t even a proper dining area, but instead a dark open space in the middle.
However, the rooms in the granny flat are also just scattered around without any zoning. I would consider rotating the kitchen, dining, and living areas, placing the living room in the free corner at the bottom right of the plan, the dining area at the bottom left, and the kitchen where the dining area currently is. Then try to create some visual separation between the bathroom/bedroom and the open living area.
@K a t j a’s suggestion in #16 is much better by far.
Since the bedroom on the ground floor is more of an office, access to the bathroom, meaning the private area, is probably easier to accept there.

The bathroom is not accessible.
Also, regarding furniture (bedroom): putting wardrobes directly against exterior walls “isn’t done” because of mold risk.
I think if the bathroom and staircase were swapped, the ground floor flow would improve, and the house would feel more like a single-family home, as the bathroom’s current location is quite disruptive.


The room on the ground floor is an office, not a bedroom—that was described incorrectly. Regarding the ground floor, we love large open spaces for dancing and playing, and don’t really need a closed-off seating area or kitchen. Ideally, two rooms on the ground floor would have been great, but we didn’t manage to implement that effectively. Having an accessible bathroom with a barrier-free (curbless) shower was important to us. Of course, there are many more requirements to officially make a bathroom accessible according to DIN XXX.

The point about wardrobes is nonsense. No one places a wardrobe or kitchen in the room just to avoid putting it against a wall. We have a ventilation system and don’t see any problem with that.
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Myrna_Loy
29 Aug 2022 19:57
medow1982 schrieb:

If I list this basement apartment, I’ll have at least 100 serious inquiries on the first try. I’ve been searching for years myself and know the market situation very well. Do you even know the prices or situation in southern Baden or Munich city? Of course, living somewhere else might be better, but here the new price per square meter is at least €8,000 (about $8,800), and rent is about €15 (around $16.50) per square meter. Anyone with high expectations should just look elsewhere. But it probably won’t be any better there either. Getting 200 inquiries per apartment is not uncommon here, and it’s not some luxury property. Especially in popular locations, demand is very high. We are not in poor Saarland or the eastern regions where tenants can still get discounts when renting or bargain a lot when buying. Supply and demand determine both availability and price here, not comfort!

That’s why I’m asking where you’re building. We live near Starnberg, where plenty of people would pay €1,600 (about $1,760) cold rent for basement apartments. Whether that’s charming or not is another question. Something about this woman and club rings a bell. Wasn’t there someone here before with similar ideas for profit maximization?
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driver55
29 Aug 2022 20:24
medow1982 schrieb:

Are you familiar with the prices/situation in Southern Baden or the city of Munich at all?
Are you building two "cabins," or did I miss something? 🙄
K a t j a29 Aug 2022 20:35
medow1982 schrieb:

...there is hardly any continuous living space with natural light.
Where exactly is there more light in the living area in your design?
medow1982 schrieb:

I forgot to mention that 95% of the time, the woman plans to use her club office downstairs with 2 to max. 4 people.
Huh? Where exactly? In the granny flat? Is the tenant then supposed to move out regularly for a short time?
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Myrna_Loy
29 Aug 2022 20:42
Ah, well spotted. The way you responded to the criticism seemed familiar to me. https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrisse-efh-mit-elw-bitte-tipps-und-feedback.38158/
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ypg
29 Aug 2022 20:50
medow1982 schrieb:

Actually not bad.
medow1982 schrieb:

You can’t fit a bathtub in like that.
medow1982 schrieb:

Unnecessary laundry room.

Sorry!! But this one is better. Your problem is that you’re not really designing an apartment for a couple who also need to do laundry or require storage space, but rather an open-plan office. Honestly, I don’t understand why this isn’t mentioned and instead there’s hesitation about a rented apartment for a couple. They might also legitimately need a bathtub, but what is an open-plan office supposed to do with a bathtub?
medow1982 schrieb:

There’s hardly any connected living space with light.

Sorry, but there really isn’t any natural light. The light well might look nice, but it doesn’t provide enough light for such a large room to feel comfortable. At least if it were on a slope, but you just look at a wall. You’re looking at walls everywhere when you look outside.
medow1982 schrieb:

So that an open-plan office can be realized.

Your all-in-one solution is neither fish nor fowl. I’m laughing out loud that there is only one parking space for an open-plan office…. You’ve been here before, haven’t you? The club lady who wants to set up her office in the basement—that was about 1-2 years ago already 😉
medow1982 schrieb:

The thing with the cupboards is nonsense.

No, it’s not…
medow1982 schrieb:

No one puts a cupboard or kitchen in the room just so it’s not against the wall.

I never said that! I said exterior wall, and that still applies even with a ventilation system.
medow1982 schrieb:

A barrier-free bathroom and a walk-in (step-free) shower were important.

Well, then you don’t write it like that, do you?!
medow1982 schrieb:

Attached is our project with a request for suggestions, especially regarding the interior layout.

So what now? Does that not apply anymore?

Edit: @Myrna_Loy thanks 🙂