ᐅ Gas Prices – Where Is Gas Still Affordable?

Scout** schrieb:

in the control room of Uniper ...

Uniper. Right. THEY have always stood out for their foresight. ;-)

Scout** schrieb:

Deal with reality or reality will deal with you!

That’s exactly how the climate works too. But I don’t want to hear any complaints when grandma gets swept down into the valley!

Scout** schrieb:

I can only tell you that the control rooms at Uniper and RWE see this differently. Unless you want conditions like in South Africa. Deal with reality or reality will deal with you!

That last sentence is probably something our ancestors ought to ponder carefully.

Scout** schrieb:

Most of the nuclear power plants currently offline there have reached the end of their operational life. They have each delivered 8,000 full-load hours per year for 40 years, totaling 320,000 full-load hours, and should have already been replaced. It’s harder than necessary because of people like you.

The global average is about two-thirds of that, around 5,800 hours per year, which means only about 230,000 hours (if you’re going to throw numbers into the debate).

Scout** schrieb:

By the way, the average lifetime of decommissioned wind turbines in Germany was 16.5 years. At 2,000 full-load hours, that’s 33,000 full-load hours, roughly one-tenth. Offshore is about double that, but even there it’s only one-fifth. Full-load hours for wind are erratic, while for nuclear power they are very predictable.

And darling, who do we owe this to, that mainly wind turbines are being shut down due to grid overload? Could it be those inflexible nuclear power plants? I’d say the balance sheet would look much better if the Renewable Energy Act were allowed to run its course, but with coal and nuclear power that’s just not possible, and gas is currently difficult to access.

Scout** schrieb:

Even now, at the end of the operational life of most of the power plant fleet in France, 30 GW out of 61 GW are still available. One thing I guarantee you: tonight, from the 61 GW of photovoltaic capacity installed in Germany, exactly 0 GW can be expected. Without conventional backup power plants, photovoltaics at this scale in the energy mix would be practically worthless.

Which minister was it again who said: with 2% renewable energy in Germany, the lights would go out here?

Marvinius schrieb:

No, it’s the energy transition of subsidy grabbers and Gas Gerd, but not mine.
Please just be honest for once.

You really need to read up before posting in forums. Gerd is not involved in the energy transition at all. And the subsidy grabbers are at RWE and others. These figures are also easy to find.

Steven schrieb:

How many countries worldwide have completely phased out nuclear and fossil energy and rely entirely on renewables? Exactly one. That is Germany.

This is one of the points I don’t understand—why, for example, isn’t solar thermal energy used more widely in African countries.

Steven schrieb:

Of course, I wouldn’t want a soldier beside me for protection if they privately enjoy wearing yellow taffeta dresses.

That interests me: Does such a soldier automatically have to be a worse fighter? I’m impressed by Israeli women, for example. On the beach in a bikini and two hours later in uniform, they have such a presence that—even if I were a man—I’d rather not mess with them. The New Year’s Eve events in Cologne would probably have turned out differently with women like that. (And privately, they might indeed enjoy wearing taffeta dresses in yellow or shades of yellow. ;-) )

Deliverer schrieb:

And that’s exactly where we need to start. That’s why I’ve worn out my keyboard keys here. And if it only inspires one person to think and switch from pellets to a heat pump instead, then it has helped.

Your posts have influenced me in this regard, even though I’m no longer a Green supporter. Yesterday, during the handover of our heating system, I double-checked with our heating technician that we can switch from gas heating to a heat pump at any time, if we want to.

halmi schrieb:

@Deliverer, it might be possible by 2050, but we’d prefer to see it by 2030, or at the latest 2035. Theoretically, a large part of this is wishful thinking and daydreaming.

Wishful thinking and daydreaming are an important initial stage for developments and improvements.

i_b_n_a_n schrieb:

… instead of a log in the fireplace (though I also like a fireplace fire, it must be an instinct).

I believe that people who don’t constantly take holiday flights, eat affordable meat several times a day, etc., can certainly afford to put a log in the fireplace. It’s unrealistic to expect “everything” from everyone. I have already presented here the principle of giving up three things that are easy to give up, two things that require a bit of effort, and maybe one thing that is (rather) difficult. ;-) And the next generation, due to better education, different socialization, more knowledge, or greater pressure, might come up with four, three, two. 🙂

Nice post, thanks for the compliment and all the best in your new home!

Did you mean this here:

Pinkiponk schrieb:

This is one of the points I don’t understand, why for example in African countries more use isn’t made of solar thermal energy.

Really solar thermal? In our regions, it is inactive about 90% of the time. I can’t imagine that in a country where water is already scarce, that so much hot water would actually be needed to justify a large-scale rollout... The area and money would make much more sense to invest in photovoltaic systems. That at least stabilizes the grid during the day and enables a lot of replacement of old combustion engines, especially in the industrial sector.

Note: This post is based on gut feeling combined with prejudices – I have never been there.

i_b_n_a_n schrieb:

Sorry, discussing at this level is really pointless. Feel free to contribute scientific facts to the discussion, otherwise just "shut up" as Mario, whom I don't particularly like, often says.

Can we turn this one-liner into a kind of "father joke"

i_b_n_a_n schrieb:

Our ancestors probably need to chew on that last sentence.

The global average is about 2/3 = approximately 5800 hours per year, so that’s only about 230,000 hours (if you’re going to throw numbers into the debate).

And darling, who do we have to thank again for primarily shutting down wind turbines due to grid overload? Could it be the inflexible nuclear power plants?
I’d say the balance would look significantly better if the Renewable Energy Act were allowed to run its course, but with coal and nuclear, that just doesn’t work — and gas is currently hard to access anyway.

Which minister said again: with 2% renewables in Germany, the lights would go out here?

During calm wind conditions, 100 wind turbines produce the same amount of kWh as 1,000 wind turbines — namely 0.0 kWh. If it’s also night or a dark calm period in winter, the contribution from “renewables” is 0.0 kWh.
What’s so hard to understand about that? 🙄
But thanks for confirming my earlier points here in the forum. 🙂
One small hint on the side: if you notice you’re riding a dead horse, just get off...