ᐅ Floor Plan of an Urban Villa in Saxony-Anhalt – Review and Suggestions
Created on: 17 Jan 2021 17:07
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martbir_2021
Good evening everyone,
My partner and I have reserved a plot of land in Saxony-Anhalt (P38a – see attachment Grundstück_P38a_001) with an almost north-south orientation, measuring 873 sqm (9,395 sq ft) (we have the option to withdraw from the reservation). The plot is tied to a developer. The start of construction is planned for Q3/2021. For about six months, we have been considering our wishes and how we want our house to look. We have looked at some floor plans from friends and received various layouts from homebuilders. From this, our first draft was created with the plot in mind. The developer prepared the initial designs based on sketches and our requests. We are currently in the preliminary planning stage to receive an offer for the realization of the entire project.
We have also already met with a financial advisor to get an overview of different financing models and to discuss our budget of 500,000 €.
Now, about our house. We will have neighbors on the west and south sides. The plot measures 25 m (width west-east) x 35 m (length north-south) (82 ft x 115 ft). It has almost a north-south alignment. The building envelope on the plot measures 17 m x 22 m (56 ft x 72 ft). A 3 m (10 ft) setback from the street must be maintained. We are allowed to build the garage on the property line next to the neighbor. That is why we have placed the garage there, so we do not "lose" any space. However, due to our floor plan and the garage's position, we were not able to create a direct connection between the utility room and the garage. We would like to build an urban villa.
We appreciate any tips and suggestions. We have concerns about the staircase and the two hallways. We would like to integrate a pantry into the kitchen and reconsider the position of the fireplace. Also, we are uncertain about the window arrangement and whether the house might be too dark.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 873 sqm (9,395 sq ft). 25x35 m (82x115 ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio (Grundflächenzahl): 0.2
Floor area ratio (Geschossflächenzahl): 0.4
Building envelope, building line and boundary: Building envelope: 17x22 m (56x72 ft), 3 m (10 ft) from the street
Border development: No. We have neighbors to the south and west
Number of parking spaces: 2 in front of the garage, 1 next to the garage, and one double garage
Number of floors: 2 – maximum ridge height allowed is 9.6 m (31.5 ft)
Roof type: Hipped roof. Any roof shape is allowed. If a flat roof is chosen, it must be greened (vegetated)
Architectural style: We prefer an urban villa, but all styles are permitted in the development area
Orientation: Almost north-south
Maximum heights/limits: maximum ridge height 9.6 m (31.5 ft) allowed
Other requirements: The garage must have a green roof, and a tree must be planted on the north side by the street.
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Urban villa with hipped roof and attic, usable as storage
Basement, floors: Two floors without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults (32 and 27 years old), 2 children planned
House size: approximately 150-165 sqm (1,615-1,775 sq ft)
Space requirements, ground floor (GF), upper floor (UF):
GF: Kitchen, pantry (not yet shown), utility room, bathroom, living-dining area
UF: 2 children's rooms, 1 guest room, 1 bathroom, 1 master bedroom
Office: For guests
Overnight guests per year: Occasionally
Open or closed architecture: Closed
Conservative or modern construction: Conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Kitchen should be separable from the living-dining area by sliding doors. We are undecided about the kitchen island.
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: Yes. Still unsure about the position. Ideally, it would be next to the door to the living-dining area.
Music/Stereo wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Double garage, masonry
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why some things are wanted or not:
We separated the garage from the house because we think otherwise the living-dining area will be too dark. We want the kitchen on the east side to catch the morning sun.
House Design
Planner:
- Planner from a construction company: Yes, based on our initial drafts
- Architect: No
- Do it yourself: Yes
What do you like most and why?:
The living area and the window front, because this is supposed to be our main living space.
What don’t you like and why?:
- Fireplace position, because it divides the living-dining area too much
- Hallway and staircase situation. We are not sure if it will work as currently arranged.
- Lighting conditions. We are uncertain if the layout will be bright enough.
Price estimate from architect/planner: Not available yet
Personal price limit for house, including equipment: 500,000 €, including land
Preferred heating system: Geothermal with drilling
If You Have to Cut Back, on which details/features?
- Can do without: sliding door in the living-dining area
- Cannot do without: double garage, guest room, large living-dining area, shower on the ground floor
Why is the design like this?
We have been thinking about our wishes and how the house should look for about six months. We reviewed some floor plans from friends and various house designs from homebuilders. Our first draft was created with the plot in mind. The developer made the initial designs based on our sketches and requests. We are still in preliminary planning to obtain an offer for the overall project.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Please provide suggestions for the floor plan. How can we improve the staircase and two hallways? Arrangement of fireplace and size of pantry? What works well? What doesn’t?
ViPlan_20201210_auf_Grundstück_002 shows the view of the plot. It still depicts the ground floor, but it shows the wrong ground floor. That version was too large for us.
Thank you very much for your suggestions.
martbir_2021
My partner and I have reserved a plot of land in Saxony-Anhalt (P38a – see attachment Grundstück_P38a_001) with an almost north-south orientation, measuring 873 sqm (9,395 sq ft) (we have the option to withdraw from the reservation). The plot is tied to a developer. The start of construction is planned for Q3/2021. For about six months, we have been considering our wishes and how we want our house to look. We have looked at some floor plans from friends and received various layouts from homebuilders. From this, our first draft was created with the plot in mind. The developer prepared the initial designs based on sketches and our requests. We are currently in the preliminary planning stage to receive an offer for the realization of the entire project.
We have also already met with a financial advisor to get an overview of different financing models and to discuss our budget of 500,000 €.
Now, about our house. We will have neighbors on the west and south sides. The plot measures 25 m (width west-east) x 35 m (length north-south) (82 ft x 115 ft). It has almost a north-south alignment. The building envelope on the plot measures 17 m x 22 m (56 ft x 72 ft). A 3 m (10 ft) setback from the street must be maintained. We are allowed to build the garage on the property line next to the neighbor. That is why we have placed the garage there, so we do not "lose" any space. However, due to our floor plan and the garage's position, we were not able to create a direct connection between the utility room and the garage. We would like to build an urban villa.
We appreciate any tips and suggestions. We have concerns about the staircase and the two hallways. We would like to integrate a pantry into the kitchen and reconsider the position of the fireplace. Also, we are uncertain about the window arrangement and whether the house might be too dark.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 873 sqm (9,395 sq ft). 25x35 m (82x115 ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio (Grundflächenzahl): 0.2
Floor area ratio (Geschossflächenzahl): 0.4
Building envelope, building line and boundary: Building envelope: 17x22 m (56x72 ft), 3 m (10 ft) from the street
Border development: No. We have neighbors to the south and west
Number of parking spaces: 2 in front of the garage, 1 next to the garage, and one double garage
Number of floors: 2 – maximum ridge height allowed is 9.6 m (31.5 ft)
Roof type: Hipped roof. Any roof shape is allowed. If a flat roof is chosen, it must be greened (vegetated)
Architectural style: We prefer an urban villa, but all styles are permitted in the development area
Orientation: Almost north-south
Maximum heights/limits: maximum ridge height 9.6 m (31.5 ft) allowed
Other requirements: The garage must have a green roof, and a tree must be planted on the north side by the street.
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Urban villa with hipped roof and attic, usable as storage
Basement, floors: Two floors without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults (32 and 27 years old), 2 children planned
House size: approximately 150-165 sqm (1,615-1,775 sq ft)
Space requirements, ground floor (GF), upper floor (UF):
GF: Kitchen, pantry (not yet shown), utility room, bathroom, living-dining area
UF: 2 children's rooms, 1 guest room, 1 bathroom, 1 master bedroom
Office: For guests
Overnight guests per year: Occasionally
Open or closed architecture: Closed
Conservative or modern construction: Conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Kitchen should be separable from the living-dining area by sliding doors. We are undecided about the kitchen island.
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: Yes. Still unsure about the position. Ideally, it would be next to the door to the living-dining area.
Music/Stereo wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Double garage, masonry
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why some things are wanted or not:
We separated the garage from the house because we think otherwise the living-dining area will be too dark. We want the kitchen on the east side to catch the morning sun.
House Design
Planner:
- Planner from a construction company: Yes, based on our initial drafts
- Architect: No
- Do it yourself: Yes
What do you like most and why?:
The living area and the window front, because this is supposed to be our main living space.
What don’t you like and why?:
- Fireplace position, because it divides the living-dining area too much
- Hallway and staircase situation. We are not sure if it will work as currently arranged.
- Lighting conditions. We are uncertain if the layout will be bright enough.
Price estimate from architect/planner: Not available yet
Personal price limit for house, including equipment: 500,000 €, including land
Preferred heating system: Geothermal with drilling
If You Have to Cut Back, on which details/features?
- Can do without: sliding door in the living-dining area
- Cannot do without: double garage, guest room, large living-dining area, shower on the ground floor
Why is the design like this?
We have been thinking about our wishes and how the house should look for about six months. We reviewed some floor plans from friends and various house designs from homebuilders. Our first draft was created with the plot in mind. The developer made the initial designs based on our sketches and requests. We are still in preliminary planning to obtain an offer for the overall project.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Please provide suggestions for the floor plan. How can we improve the staircase and two hallways? Arrangement of fireplace and size of pantry? What works well? What doesn’t?
ViPlan_20201210_auf_Grundstück_002 shows the view of the plot. It still depicts the ground floor, but it shows the wrong ground floor. That version was too large for us.
Thank you very much for your suggestions.
martbir_2021
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martbir_202117 Jan 2021 22:26ypg schrieb:
The financial advisor says that your budget for building the house will be sufficient?
I want to point out that many people add quite a bit on top, which the financial advisor might not be aware of.
In 2019 on average:
2000 €/sqm (approximately $200 per sq ft), based on energy-saving regulations, simple design, external thermal insulation composite system (ETICS), plaster finish, without fireplace, sliding doors, lift-and-slide door, bay window, or other extras
Plus additional construction costs
Plus garage/carport
Plus painting and flooring work
Plus landscaping
Plus furniture (kitchen)
I’m not sure how this compares to southern Germany — in Brandenburg, many things are still quite affordable.
He compared it with prices he actually achieved in 2020. Kitchen and furniture were not included in that total yet. Your explanations sound reasonable, and we also have doubts that we can manage with €350,000.
ypg schrieb:
Regarding the floor plan:
The 3.15 m (10 ft 4 in) dimension is actually quite tight. I personally wouldn’t agree to having just 50 weeks a year of space in the TV corner while giving it up for two holiday weeks. You should also consider how four people would watch a movie together on the sofa.
But the tightness is not only in the living area. Also in the kitchen: 60 cm (24 in) countertop, 1 m (39 in) walkway, 90 cm (35 in) island, that adds up to 2.50 m (8 ft 2 in). That leaves a practical 60 cm (24 in) for a theoretical seating area. Given the elongated kitchen dimension, it would make sense to use lengthwise space for seating and such as well.
Fireplace: where it is now, its heat will disturb the seats on the right side. The heat will even scorch the backs of the chairs. I’d bet on it!
It would be better placed at the right corner by the all-purpose room door.
We will adjust the 3.15 m (10 ft 4 in). We just haven’t figured out yet how to better use the open space between the dining table and the couch.
We want to remove the island in the kitchen. It will be too cramped.
The fireplace location didn’t suit us either. We want it at the right corner where it opens to the living-dining area.
ypg schrieb:
The utility room is a good size. I find the cloakroom too small for four people.
Upstairs, there is similar wasted space in the hallway. However, I like the arrangement of the three children’s rooms / office.
In principle, I’m surprised you are planning the garage on the west side. It would be much better located on the east side. Still, if four people use the utility room for laundry, I would advise against a direct passageway from the garage.
Regarding humidity in the utility room: ventilation is necessary, either manual or mechanical.
What fits on a shelf also fits in a kitchen cabinet.
Since the lot/building area is very large, I would also position the house a bit further back. A 5 m (16 ft) front yard offers space to play, relax, repair bicycles, etc. Three meters (10 ft) offer almost nothing. We have real concerns about the hallway and the stairs. We just haven’t found an optimized solution yet.
We did place the garage on the east side initially. However, the 3 m (10 ft) setback from the street reduces the usable lot area, so we moved it back to the west side.
Thank you very much for the comments.
I find the representation of the exterior wall in the drawing confusing (36.5 cm [14.4 inches] thick, but not shown as a solid structure, and the construction specifications suggest a third option). The shape of the staircase feels out of place here and is a bit awkward to integrate; in my opinion, this won’t be enjoyable for you. I would recommend removing the bay window (not just painting over it, haha). Consider making the "Werra" the base – it could also be made into a townhouse-style building if desired.
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Alessandro18 Jan 2021 08:32Ysop*** schrieb:
Oh, I would keep the pantry, but store the supplies in a tall cabinet in the kitchen. A cooler is not really like a pantry anyway. Unfortunately, I keep reading this, but I cannot confirm it. My pantry is at 19°C (66°F). The rest of the house is at 22°C (72°F).
Schimi179118 Jan 2021 08:49I find the rooms on the upper floor too small.
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martbir_202118 Jan 2021 10:10Alessandro schrieb:
I unfortunately read that quite often. However, I cannot confirm it. My pantry has 19°C (66°F). The rest of the house is at 22°C (72°F). A difference of 3°C (5°F) can indeed make quite a difference.
The pantry would also be constructed without a heating circuit.
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martbir_202118 Jan 2021 10:1211ant schrieb:
I find the representation of the exterior wall in the drawing confusing (with a thickness of 36.5 cm (14.4 inches), but not shown as monolithic, and the construction specification expresses a different opinion). The staircase design feels out of place here and is somewhat awkward to integrate; in my opinion, this won't bring you much joy. I would remove the bay window (not just paint over it, haha). Consider making the "Werra" design your base — it could also be adapted for an urban villa style if desired. Thank you. We are also having the biggest issues with the staircase. Originally, the floor plan was about 700 mm (28 inches) longer in the north-south direction, which allowed us to install a straight staircase. Unfortunately, the house then felt too large for our taste, so we reduced its size. We will take a closer look at the floor plan of the Werra model.
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