ᐅ New Single-Family Home Construction in Southern Germany

Created on: 18 Nov 2020 00:43
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WilderSueden
Hello everyone,
after jumping straight into the basement discussion thread, I want to use this one as an introduction and idea-sharing thread. Some things might seem a bit chaotic at first, but that will surely clear up.

We are expecting our first child in February. Since two rooms are obviously too few for the long term, we need something larger. The housing market here in Konstanz is notoriously difficult, so we didn’t spend much time searching here. Thanks to Corona home office, we focused on areas a bit further away right from the start. Initially, we looked mostly at existing properties, but due to the poor condition of what’s on offer, we unexpectedly ended up deciding to build. We were actually lucky to get a plot in a new development area around Stockach-Pfullendorf. The site started being developed this week and will probably be buildable from summer onward.

Here are some key details:
- He/I am 33, work in the software industry, based in Konstanz, from a rural area
- She is 41, a teacher in the Hegau region, from a city that basically doesn’t exist
- One child on the way, no further children planned and unlikely due to her age
- Currently living in about 65sqm (700 sq ft) with 2.5 rooms in a lovely apartment building…
- Basically, we don’t want anything too fancy—no extensive smart home automation, no luxury mansion with marble and so on. Just something solid and nice. We are not building to fulfill a lifelong dream but to avoid renovating an old house worth half a million euros. Plain wallpaper texture and laminate flooring would be fine for us if the quality is good.
- Accordingly, we don’t mind using a “standard” floor plan from a prefabricated house builder or a typical model home.
- That said, since we are building, it should be energy efficient and we don’t want to use concepts that might soon be politically outdated or unsupported.
- Do-it-yourself work only to a limited extent, as we are neither professionals nor do we have relevant contacts. Also, the new house is a bit further away, so working on it in the evening is unlikely. A weekend of painting before moving in is no problem, and after moving in, doing the carport, terrace, and garden ourselves is also fine.
- The construction partner must be reliable.

Plot and financials:
- Plot roughly 700sqm (7,535 sq ft) at 98€ per sqm → 70,000€, fairly rectangular
- 120,000€ equity (with some reserve left)
- Financing and ownership entirely in my name (unmarried and no joint assets intended)
- Planned overall budget about 500,000€
- Target monthly payment 1,500€
- Accordingly, loan to be repaid in 25 years with that rate, with some extra repayments planned mid-term aiming for about 20 years total

Budget breakdown:
- Plot 70,000€
- Ancillary plot costs 5,000€
- Other construction-related fees 60,000€
- Basement 50,000€
- Kitchen 10,000€
- Driveway, carport, terrace as DIY 15,000€
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210,000€
Leaves about 290,000€ in the budget for the house itself, which is probably quite tight for what we have planned. The budget still needs to be adjusted with a buffer.

So far, our wishlist looks roughly like this:
- Not excessively large, more like 120–130sqm (1,290–1,400 sq ft)
- Efficient, modern house
- Photovoltaic system (possibly with battery storage)
- Underfloor heating with heat pump
- Home office for me on the ground floor (makes sense since I mostly work from home)
- Bedroom upstairs, one office for her that also serves as a guest room and reserve nursery
- Large open-plan kitchen/living area
- Basement
- Cistern
- Carport for two cars and one trailer

Our first contact about building was through an ad from the local Town & Country partner. The consultant was friendly, and the show house in Geisingen looked quite nice, but somehow it all felt a bit too conservative. Built according to the Energy Saving Ordinance 2016, standard gas heating. Sure, upgrades are possible, but I’m not sure if a heat pump makes sense under that regulation anymore. The fact that the show house had cracks in the plaster here and there isn’t exactly reassuring either. But the base price is lower. Current status: two meetings, visited the show house, haven’t requested the scope of services yet.

Then we looked a bit into prefab houses. Most offer KfW55 standard, which is closer to what we want and would be a good base for going to KfW40+ since a photovoltaic system is already planned (probably just with battery preparation though). Visited the park in Villingen-Schwenningen. Had a long chat with Schwabenhaus; the consultant seemed to want to downplay costs and was very keen to sell a ground-source heat pump with boreholes. The upgrade options for the promotional houses looked likely to increase costs significantly. Visited Heldhaus, liked it quite a lot but their cost outline overshoots the budget by roughly 100,000€.

Today we had an appointment with Schwörerhaus. The floor plan of one of their promotional houses fits pretty well. Basement plus KfW40+ seems somewhat challenging in combination. Otherwise, a generally good impression; the briefly reviewed scope of services doesn’t give the impression the house would be unpleasant to live in. Let’s see what the first offer will look like. I don’t get the feeling there’s much that could go wrong there.

Next week we have an appointment with Weberhaus. We found a floor plan we really like. The price is initially the highest, but their examples include KfW40+ standard and smart home automation upfront.

Our goal is to narrow down the number of companies we continue with to a maximum of two by Christmas and then decide on a construction partner early next year. In spring, the baby will take priority, not just house planning.

I’ve already posted some thoughts about the basement and possible basement substitutes. The insulation costs for the basement seem to fully consume the additional subsidies, so the photovoltaic battery would have to be paid out of pocket again. One idea on the drive back from the appointment was whether it makes sense to build the house initially to KfW55 standard without extra insulation. The difference in heating costs is relatively small. Then install just the conduit pipes for photovoltaics with battery preparation. A few years later, add a battery once prices drop. That would also likely bring the house closer to the planned budget than going for KfW40+.

These are my thoughts so far. Have I missed anything important?
Schimi179128 Dec 2020 15:24
ypg schrieb:

We are in a new build thread right now – you tend to mix everything up and not focus on the thread topic 😎

I know ... my train of thought is (unfortunately) often hard to follow 🙁 Maybe I was still thinking a bit about the bathtubs ... 🙂
ypg schrieb:

... and you compare your quote... By the way, the disadvantages mentioned in the report and the proposed origin are much longer than just "daylighting through bay windows" 😉

Hopefully the bay window in the basement will continue on the floor above??
pagoni2020 schrieb:

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No, think of Art Nouveau alone....
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I haven’t come across that style yet among the many townhouses here with clear, straight lines.
pagoni2020 schrieb:

Oh, it’s on the “internet”.... so it must be true.
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Okay, if the model home center and even Google say so, I’ll admit defeat in terms of taste.
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I just reacted to the term “old-fashioned” in relation to “bay windows” in principle 🙂

And before (again) false assumptions arise: No, I’m not fundamentally an advocate of bay windows, nor do I insist on the necessity of having a bathtub 😀
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pagoni2020
28 Dec 2020 15:35
[QUOTE="Schimi1791, post: 458578, member: 53263"
I haven’t come across this here among the many city villas – with clear, straight lines – so far.
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Hmm... maybe because they weren’t Art Nouveau villas??? Could be.
The word "villa" has become as misused as many other terms nowadays. So far, I haven’t seen any true villas in a model home center, just more or less standard buildings that are marketed as "villas."
I once rented a villa-level apartment for a while. The floor space was 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft), probably reflecting reduced nobility, but calling 170 sqm (1,830 sq ft) spread over two floors a "villa" fails just because of the size; there’s no vinyl flooring or wall units there either. Real style usually continues throughout a building.
It is a residential house, maybe even a beautiful one, but it’s not a villa. I’m hopefully building a nice house myself but wouldn’t dream of calling it a villa or something like that.
Just because I now make pasta salad doesn’t mean I call myself “Bocuse,” yet my pasta salad is still great 🤨.
Schimi179128 Dec 2020 15:38
My full agreement. Maybe I should have put townhouses in quotation marks... so "townhouses" 🙂
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pagoni2020
28 Dec 2020 15:40
Schimi1791 schrieb:

I fully agree. Maybe I should have put
townhouses
in quotation marks... so "townhouses" 🙂

@11ant came up with the right term: Astatt villas.
As I said, I don’t want to criticize the construction or the design itself; I just find the term "villa" rather amusing. There isn’t even a "country house" in the development. Apparently, these wordplays help with sales...
Schimi179128 Dec 2020 15:45
pagoni2020 schrieb:

Apparently, these wordplays help with selling.....
... (also) bay windows too? 😀

Taste is what you like. We also have a bay window. There is a balcony above it. It has never occurred to me to consider it “old-fashioned.” I’m rather neutral about it, it’s just “there.” It may be true that today fewer bay windows – meaning “protrusions” on the facade – are built (just like, for example, fireplaces). This is probably due to costs and the resulting (limited) benefits – see basements.
… and before we get “lost” in bay windows, let’s leave it at that 🙂
11ant28 Dec 2020 15:52
Schimi1791 schrieb:

I’m currently wondering why basements are being skipped nowadays. Of course, it’s partly a cost issue, but has the rise in prices essentially forced people to build without basements, or does the majority of home builders simply no longer want one?
You’re assuming, in my opinion, a mistaken perspective—that people considering basements are those who would have built under normal circumstances and are now dealing with construction price increases due to inflation or economic conditions. On the contrary, I have the impression that the basement question (and especially the tendency to reject it in hopes of saving money) is mostly driven by people who only recently got the chance to realize their dream of owning a home during a period of relatively low borrowing costs. They see their unexpectedly attainable social advancement to homeowner at risk of falling apart unless they focus on the “core” — which in practice means leaving out two things: 1. the basement and 2. a custom architect.

From this viewpoint, the basement represents “hidden costs”: fully underground space doesn’t provide any prestige and thus doesn’t serve as a status symbol of “look, we managed to build, too.” For similar reasons, carports are becoming increasingly popular—until reality sets in: the open Porsche or BMW shown in home design visualizations often turns out, after reviewing the construction scope, to be something the owner must provide, and it’s hardly appealing to showcase a mid-range station wagon like a pearl necklace. Additionally, the attic under a pitched tent roof offers what I’d call a “not very convincing” storage solution. The all-inclusive draftsperson then becomes just the logical extension of the widespread, generic, tourist-style superficial luxury.

I see it as only a matter of time before new housing developments get renamed to “GZSZ Areas.” ;-)
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