ᐅ Paving stones in garage are sinking under the weight of a car (thermal insulation issue)
Created on: 16 May 2020 11:44
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Hausbesitzer0816 May 2020 11:44Hello community,
I have the following problem: Our paved garage has a basement underneath, which is why there is a bitumen layer under the paving stones and insulation below that. Please don’t judge—using paving stones was not our decision. We bought the house as-is, and unfortunately, the builder no longer exists.
Now, the paving stones are sinking so much under the weight of the car that the bitumen membrane underneath is at risk of developing cracks. We suspect that the insulation material used was too soft.
One option would be to remove everything, replace the insulation with something more “stable,” and/or remove the paving stones and instead pour a monolithic reinforced concrete slab. For understandable reasons, I’d prefer not to do this…
Is it conceivable to place some kind of reinforcement within the gravel/sand base under the paving stones? Something like a grass reinforcement grid, for example. This way, the car’s weight might be distributed better, right? Then the entire substructure could remain untouched, and above all, I could handle it myself. Of course, I realize this is not a proper “standard solution.” I just want it to hold. What are the risks with such a setup? Would such reinforcement ultimately also push through the bitumen membrane?
Thank you very much for your opinion and any ideas.
Elias
I have the following problem: Our paved garage has a basement underneath, which is why there is a bitumen layer under the paving stones and insulation below that. Please don’t judge—using paving stones was not our decision. We bought the house as-is, and unfortunately, the builder no longer exists.
Now, the paving stones are sinking so much under the weight of the car that the bitumen membrane underneath is at risk of developing cracks. We suspect that the insulation material used was too soft.
One option would be to remove everything, replace the insulation with something more “stable,” and/or remove the paving stones and instead pour a monolithic reinforced concrete slab. For understandable reasons, I’d prefer not to do this…
Is it conceivable to place some kind of reinforcement within the gravel/sand base under the paving stones? Something like a grass reinforcement grid, for example. This way, the car’s weight might be distributed better, right? Then the entire substructure could remain untouched, and above all, I could handle it myself. Of course, I realize this is not a proper “standard solution.” I just want it to hold. What are the risks with such a setup? Would such reinforcement ultimately also push through the bitumen membrane?
Thank you very much for your opinion and any ideas.
Elias
Hausbesitzer08 schrieb:
for understandable reasonsFor me, this is not understandable at the moment. What are the reasons?H
Hausbesitzer0816 May 2020 12:36Pinky0301 schrieb:
For me, it’s not understandable at this point. What are the reasons?Ok, thanks for your opinion... Well, the entire structure up to the basement ceiling would have to be removed and disposed of. After that, all the materials would need to be procured and properly installed and waterproofed. This takes time for planning and execution, and of course, a relatively significant amount of money.
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HilfeHilfe16 May 2020 12:53With gravel, it will always shift. Since when has it been moving?
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Hausbesitzer0816 May 2020 12:59HilfeHilfe schrieb:
Gravel will always shift. Since when has it been moving? Yes, but only because of the soft insulation.
It has been moving since the garage has been used more frequently. So far, it was just a small car, but soon there will likely be a larger (heavier) vehicle.
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hampshire16 May 2020 15:27The idea of distributing the weight of the vehicles over a larger surface area is good. Remove the paving, install a large steel plate, and then replace the paving on top – that should last for a while. Alternatively, if you want to preserve the paving, you can work with a type of beam structure.
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