ᐅ Construction companies from Schleswig-Holstein

Created on: 4 Sep 2019 20:46
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mondbau
Hello forum,
who can recommend reliable construction companies in southern Schleswig-Holstein? We plan to build a solidly constructed city villa of 140-150 sqm (1506-1615 sq ft) in the Pinneberg district.
There are many providers available, but direct comparison is really difficult. In the end, you always know more than before.

The following aspects are important:
- Price-performance ratio (also after selecting finishes)
- Construction time (from contract signing to handover)
- Build quality
- Good planning phase, construction phase, and warranty phase
- Possibly using own trades
- Possibly performing some work by ourselves

These companies come to mind:
- Team Massivhaus (builds approx. 800 houses/year)
- Ö-Haus
- Kagebau (builds approx. 150 houses/year)
- ECO Haus (builds approx. 150 houses/year)
- Kraft&Pahlke
- Town & Country
- Stollhaus
- Virtus Bau
- Hauscompagnie
- Helma
- Viebrockhaus (builds approx. 1100 houses/year)
- KSW Massivhaus (approx. 50 houses/year)
- Generalbau Peters
- Kalksandstein Bau Tornesch
- PE Massivhaus
- Nissen Massivhaus (approx. 50 houses/year)
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Pepsan
22 Nov 2019 06:57
The site manager does not respond to emails or phone calls.
The expert’s report was ignored (the expert states that A and B are incorrect, while the construction manager says A and B are fine).
You are supposed to send us the invoices AFTER the work is completed. Instead, you send them weeks BEFORE the work begins.
On the handover day, we met on site with the construction manager and expert: walls and ceilings were unfinished, there were no interior doors, and no insulation in the attic.
I could keep writing, but I think that is enough...
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Irschen
14 Jan 2020 21:20
airliner schrieb:

We have been considering building a house for quite some time now. So far, Viebrockhaus and Ecohaus have appealed to us the most. Not only because of their attractive glossy brochures but also based on the feedback from homeowners we have met over the past few months.

We are STILL currently building with Ecohaus, nearly finished, and I have to say NEVER AGAIN.
You should also talk to other homeowners, not just the ones Ecohaus introduces you to. That’s when you learn what’s really going on behind the facade. I will share all the feedback with you soon.
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mondbau
14 Jan 2020 22:53
Unfortunately, quality is lacking during the construction boom.
Is there any news about the Team Massiv?
I was recently in a new residential area, and an eco-conscious builder also said no. Of course, it’s a matter of luck who your subcontractor is at the moment, and how the subcontractors work together. I can’t understand the issue with Kage; the masons and roofers are separate teams, so why wouldn’t it work better? Are they all apprentices?
seth048714 Jan 2020 23:15
As mentioned before, we can’t really complain about Kage either... everything went fairly smoothly. Defects related to the building savings contract were resolved quickly and correctly... but that doesn’t mean that mistakes can’t happen there as well, or that you might end up dealing with the wrong person (site manager)...
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Pepsan
15 Jan 2020 11:34
mondbau schrieb:

I can't understand the situation with Kage; the masons and roofers are separate

That’s what the Kage salesperson promised us. Sounds good. But they weren’t; they were subcontractors.
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danixf
15 Jan 2020 13:24
seth0487 schrieb:

As I already mentioned, we can’t really complain about Kage either.... everything went fairly smoothly. Defects covered by the building savings contract were quickly and properly fixed... but that doesn’t mean mistakes can’t happen there too, or that you won’t end up with the wrong person (site manager)….

Same here. Sometimes there are inconsistencies and we find the coordination a bit chaotic at times, but overall all defects were acknowledged and fixed without any issues.
mondbau schrieb:

I can’t understand that about Kage, the bricklayers and roofers are separate, so why shouldn’t it work better? Are all apprentices?

The roofers are a subcontractor, but the carpenter is usually permanent with Kage. Sometimes they also subcontract bricklaying or other work.
Pepsan schrieb:

The foreman doesn’t answer emails or phone calls.
The expert’s report was ignored (the expert says A and B are wrong, the site manager says no, A and B are fine).
They are supposed to send us the invoices AFTER the work is completed. They send them WEEKS BEFORE work starts.
On the day of handover, we met on site with the site manager and expert: walls and ceilings were not finished, there were no interior doors, and no insulation in the attic.
I could go on, but I think that’s enough...

Sorry, but looking at this post, I get the impression that with every little issue someone asks around or sends an email. Often trying to bypass the site manager and talk directly to the “foreman.” It reminds me of some posts here in the forum where a big fuss is made over trivial matters.
What’s the problem with the invoices? Just file them away. We also received some of them a few days earlier. Payment was only made after completion. There were never any discussions or calls from Kage about missing payments. Honestly, they could have handed them over at the start of construction—it doesn’t bother me as long as I don’t incur late fees or anything like that.
An expert ≠ all-knowing. We also had one who raised some concerns. Later it turned out that the work was up to code. If something was wrong, it was fixed as mentioned above. Sometimes it took a few weeks, but I never had to chase endlessly by phone.
The handover situation was of course poorly handled, but then you just postpone it, right? Interior doors + attic insulation is about 3-4 hours of work, so not a huge deal. Walls and ceilings not finished? What else is left to do after screed and plaster?
All your points, except for the handover date, are minor issues.

Things definitely didn’t run perfectly on our site either, but looking at other discussions here I’m glad we got a company where you don’t have to worry about whether the house will even be finished once you sign the contract. Building a house nowadays and having everything run smoothly is probably wishful thinking.