Hello forum,
who can recommend reliable construction companies in southern Schleswig-Holstein? We plan to build a solidly constructed city villa of 140-150 sqm (1506-1615 sq ft) in the Pinneberg district.
There are many providers available, but direct comparison is really difficult. In the end, you always know more than before.
The following aspects are important:
- Price-performance ratio (also after selecting finishes)
- Construction time (from contract signing to handover)
- Build quality
- Good planning phase, construction phase, and warranty phase
- Possibly using own trades
- Possibly performing some work by ourselves
These companies come to mind:
- Team Massivhaus (builds approx. 800 houses/year)
- Ö-Haus
- Kagebau (builds approx. 150 houses/year)
- ECO Haus (builds approx. 150 houses/year)
- Kraft&Pahlke
- Town & Country
- Stollhaus
- Virtus Bau
- Hauscompagnie
- Helma
- Viebrockhaus (builds approx. 1100 houses/year)
- KSW Massivhaus (approx. 50 houses/year)
- Generalbau Peters
- Kalksandstein Bau Tornesch
- PE Massivhaus
- Nissen Massivhaus (approx. 50 houses/year)
who can recommend reliable construction companies in southern Schleswig-Holstein? We plan to build a solidly constructed city villa of 140-150 sqm (1506-1615 sq ft) in the Pinneberg district.
There are many providers available, but direct comparison is really difficult. In the end, you always know more than before.
The following aspects are important:
- Price-performance ratio (also after selecting finishes)
- Construction time (from contract signing to handover)
- Build quality
- Good planning phase, construction phase, and warranty phase
- Possibly using own trades
- Possibly performing some work by ourselves
These companies come to mind:
- Team Massivhaus (builds approx. 800 houses/year)
- Ö-Haus
- Kagebau (builds approx. 150 houses/year)
- ECO Haus (builds approx. 150 houses/year)
- Kraft&Pahlke
- Town & Country
- Stollhaus
- Virtus Bau
- Hauscompagnie
- Helma
- Viebrockhaus (builds approx. 1100 houses/year)
- KSW Massivhaus (approx. 50 houses/year)
- Generalbau Peters
- Kalksandstein Bau Tornesch
- PE Massivhaus
- Nissen Massivhaus (approx. 50 houses/year)
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MelanieSH24 Sep 2019 12:51A few days ago, we had our preliminary inspection with Nissen Massivhaus. Two windows still need to be readjusted. Otherwise, there are no defects. Excellent communication. Even during the construction phase, any issues were resolved quickly and to our satisfaction.
We have been building for a year now, including the planning phase, etc. Also in the PI district, and have dealt with various companies. My experience is based on personal conversations, a network of craftsmen acquaintances, and employees from different companies that work with them.
Team Massivhaus did not convince us during discussions. Also, some acquaintances had several problems with them during construction. We are building with Kagebau. More on that below. Town & Country and Stollhaus also did not leave a very good impression in our personal talks, in our opinion. Hauscompagnie – I would have loved to build with them. The meeting was great. The prices were absolutely reasonable, and the selection process was very good. I can only recommend that you at least meet with them once. Viebrockhaus – if you want almost no problems whatsoever, then this company is the one. But the price is five figures higher than others. Within our close family circle, a salesperson and a construction manager work there. It was not worth it for us because we have quite a few craftsmen in the family who could also occasionally check on the work. Change requests during construction (EL – Eigenleistung, own work) are almost impossible there, as the trades are strictly scheduled to ensure a 3–4-month construction period. At least, that’s what we were told during the conversation. Generalbau Peters – first impression was very good; however, there were no concrete talks since we had already signed shortly after making contact.
Now, explicitly about Kagebau. I would rate price/performance about 8/10. The material selections are quite expensive if you have high demands. It can definitely be cheaper—I’ve seen numbers here on the forum sometimes. If you want exact numbers, feel free to message me privately (I just noticed you have fewer than 100 posts. Can I send you a private message for you to reply? Maybe someone here knows?). You negotiate sockets and similar directly with the subcontractors anyway. You can also buy certain items yourself, like a washbasin, and just tell the plumber to install it; they only need a datasheet. The 8 rating mainly relates to the selection process being quite expensive in some areas, not the quality.
Construction time for us is about eight months. It can go faster, but that was fine for us. We knew from the start how long it would approximately take and adapted to it. We also had no pressure (job changes, lease termination, etc.). According to our building inspector and the construction manager from Viebrockhaus, the quality is very good. No major defects, and if anything was unclear, it was explained.
The planning phase was quite relaxed. You simply choose a “standard house” and then can modify the floor plan as you like. We didn’t make many changes. Kagebau has a mailing list where you can sign up. When houses are nearing handover, you can visit them. We did that several times and already got an idea of how it would look in the end. There is also a show home park with about 5–6 houses—enough to get an impression.
So far, the construction phase is running very well. Sometimes there’s a 1–2 week pause, but as long as key deadlines are met, it doesn’t bother us.
Regarding the warranty phase, I can only report what I heard from friends. There were some cracked tiles and one window pane had a crack. These were replaced without issue. Only the coordination was poor: sometimes craftsmen showed up unexpectedly when the owners were not informed.
Own work (EL) for painting, flooring, and paving is standard, but you can also buy those services through Kagebau. Floor covering work (vinyl, etc.) is done by the company Knutzen. Price/performance is reasonable. Nothing to complain about. The other two trades you can also contract through Kagebau, but we preferred to find local companies ourselves because their prices were too high for us.
Whether you can do entire trades like electrical or plumbing yourself depends, in my opinion, on how you present yourself. We took on one trade ourselves, but initially they were not enthusiastic about it. The problem is: if something goes wrong, who is responsible? That might sound odd, but it is understandable to want to avoid unnecessary stress.
If you tell me which trade you might want to do yourself, I can tell you whether it is worth it or not. The prices from the subcontractors are reasonable.
In summary, we are very satisfied with our decision. By the way, the shell is completely built by Kagebau. Except for the prefabricated ceiling slabs, everything is manufactured by them—even the beams for the roof truss. On-site, German is spoken continuously, even across subcontractors.
mondbau schrieb:
The following companies I see:
- Team Massivhaus (builds approx. 800 houses/year)
- Ö-Haus
- Kagebau (builds approx. 150 houses/year)
- ECO Haus (builds approx. 150 houses/year)
- Kraft&Pahlke
- Town & Country
- Stollhaus
- Virtus Bau
- Hauscompagnie
- Helma
- Viebrockhaus (builds approx. 1100 houses/year)
- KSW Massivhaus (approx. 50 houses/year)
- Generalbau Peters
- Kalksandstein Bau Tornesch
- PE Massivhaus
- Nissen Massivhaus (approx. 50 houses/year)
Team Massivhaus did not convince us during discussions. Also, some acquaintances had several problems with them during construction. We are building with Kagebau. More on that below. Town & Country and Stollhaus also did not leave a very good impression in our personal talks, in our opinion. Hauscompagnie – I would have loved to build with them. The meeting was great. The prices were absolutely reasonable, and the selection process was very good. I can only recommend that you at least meet with them once. Viebrockhaus – if you want almost no problems whatsoever, then this company is the one. But the price is five figures higher than others. Within our close family circle, a salesperson and a construction manager work there. It was not worth it for us because we have quite a few craftsmen in the family who could also occasionally check on the work. Change requests during construction (EL – Eigenleistung, own work) are almost impossible there, as the trades are strictly scheduled to ensure a 3–4-month construction period. At least, that’s what we were told during the conversation. Generalbau Peters – first impression was very good; however, there were no concrete talks since we had already signed shortly after making contact.
mondbau schrieb:
The following aspects play a role:
- Price/performance ratio (also after the selection process)
- Construction time (from contract signing to handover)
- Build quality
- Good planning, construction, and warranty phases
- Possibly own trades (self-executed work)
- Possibly use of own efforts (EL)
Now, explicitly about Kagebau. I would rate price/performance about 8/10. The material selections are quite expensive if you have high demands. It can definitely be cheaper—I’ve seen numbers here on the forum sometimes. If you want exact numbers, feel free to message me privately (I just noticed you have fewer than 100 posts. Can I send you a private message for you to reply? Maybe someone here knows?). You negotiate sockets and similar directly with the subcontractors anyway. You can also buy certain items yourself, like a washbasin, and just tell the plumber to install it; they only need a datasheet. The 8 rating mainly relates to the selection process being quite expensive in some areas, not the quality.
Construction time for us is about eight months. It can go faster, but that was fine for us. We knew from the start how long it would approximately take and adapted to it. We also had no pressure (job changes, lease termination, etc.). According to our building inspector and the construction manager from Viebrockhaus, the quality is very good. No major defects, and if anything was unclear, it was explained.
The planning phase was quite relaxed. You simply choose a “standard house” and then can modify the floor plan as you like. We didn’t make many changes. Kagebau has a mailing list where you can sign up. When houses are nearing handover, you can visit them. We did that several times and already got an idea of how it would look in the end. There is also a show home park with about 5–6 houses—enough to get an impression.
So far, the construction phase is running very well. Sometimes there’s a 1–2 week pause, but as long as key deadlines are met, it doesn’t bother us.
Regarding the warranty phase, I can only report what I heard from friends. There were some cracked tiles and one window pane had a crack. These were replaced without issue. Only the coordination was poor: sometimes craftsmen showed up unexpectedly when the owners were not informed.
Own work (EL) for painting, flooring, and paving is standard, but you can also buy those services through Kagebau. Floor covering work (vinyl, etc.) is done by the company Knutzen. Price/performance is reasonable. Nothing to complain about. The other two trades you can also contract through Kagebau, but we preferred to find local companies ourselves because their prices were too high for us.
Whether you can do entire trades like electrical or plumbing yourself depends, in my opinion, on how you present yourself. We took on one trade ourselves, but initially they were not enthusiastic about it. The problem is: if something goes wrong, who is responsible? That might sound odd, but it is understandable to want to avoid unnecessary stress.
If you tell me which trade you might want to do yourself, I can tell you whether it is worth it or not. The prices from the subcontractors are reasonable.
In summary, we are very satisfied with our decision. By the way, the shell is completely built by Kagebau. Except for the prefabricated ceiling slabs, everything is manufactured by them—even the beams for the roof truss. On-site, German is spoken continuously, even across subcontractors.
MelanieSH schrieb:
We recently had our preliminary inspection with Nissen Massivhaus.Hello MelanieSH, I contacted the company Nissen. They do not operate in the Pinneberg district. Otherwise, they seem to make a good impression.
danixf schrieb:
Hauscompagnie – I would have loved to build with them. The conversation was great. The prices were also completely reasonable, and the selection process was very good. I can only recommend that you meet with them at least once.Hello danixf, first of all, thank you very much for your detailed message.
I don’t know if HausCompagnie can compete on price with Kage, Eco, or Town & Country. For me, it’s not about the last dollar.
What exactly do you mean by “prices completely reasonable”? Why didn’t you choose the company? What’s nice about HausCompagnie is that you don’t have to pay a cent until the handover of the keys.
mondbau schrieb:
What does "prices completely reasonable" mean? Why didn’t you choose the company? The nice thing about HausCompagnie is that you don’t have to pay a single cent until you receive the keys. From what I saw regarding prices, I found them quite reasonable at HC. Compared to others – for example, Viebrockhaus – they are affordable in my opinion.
As already mentioned, Kage is also relatively expensive and more comparable to HC than to Town & Country.
We didn’t have a plot yet, and Kage had a project where several houses were being built. For various reasons, we then decided on that.
But if I had to choose based only on the initial conversations, it would have been HC.