ᐅ Future Vision: Construction Mistakes of Today

Created on: 14 Nov 2019 16:24
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Fummelbrett!
Hello everyone,

I have often wondered what typical “building mistakes” from the 2010s and 2020s will be seen as in a few decades. Would you like to speculate together?

I mean, in the 1970s, it was considered stylish and modern to cover bathroom walls with brown tiles all the way to the ceiling and combine them with sunny yellow sanitary ceramics. Back then, no one could have imagined that this would one day be regarded as unattractive.

Will vinyl flooring and laundry connections on the first floor be seen as typical but now outdated features of our time? Floor-to-ceiling windows? “Smokey eyes” (dark window tinting)? Which elements will make the next generation shake their heads and wonder about our questionable taste?
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Nordlys
15 Nov 2019 17:43
I am bothered by the term "building crime." For example, asbestos roofs are building crimes. Or poor design mistakes like Berlin Marzahn. Or, in the case of bridges, bad concrete or similar issues. But something that is fashionable today and will no longer be so by 2040 is not yet a crime; it merely reflects the spirit of the times. Take, for instance, the small kitchen with a hatch to the dining room—typical of the 1970s, also typical because that era tried to imitate the large bourgeois lifestyle of the 19th century. Sitting in the kitchen was no longer necessary; a bell would ring, and everyone would go to the dining room, often walnut-paneled... a reflection of the spirit of the time, but not a building crime. And some people who purchase such a house retain this concept because it actually works, even though today an open-plan kitchen-living space—the so-called proletarian kitchen—is back in style, usually with bar stools from Roller like those seen on GZSZ.
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11ant15 Nov 2019 17:55
hampshire schrieb:

- living rooms oriented toward the television
- which turns out to be unhealthy suddenly – maybe due to forced ventilation systems

The living rooms are not only oriented toward the television but, in case of a disruption in the broadcast network, also toward the TV studio kitchen. That kitchen isn’t really used but serves as a backup decoration for that disruption – so apart from the missing Tim Mälzer, the usual background image remains.
I have already written about controlled residential ventilation here: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/was-wurde-unerwartet-gut.32287/page-4#post-346013
Nordlys schrieb:

Or design disasters like Berlin Marzahn.

In the eastern part, at least these are prefabricated panel buildings where floors can be removed – which is typically not possible with the residential silos in the west.
Nordlys schrieb:

Take the small kitchen with a pass-through to the dining room, typical of the 1970s,

We and the other tenants of the multi-family building first occupied in 1972 declined the pass-through because it dictated the living room layout and would have cost space for furniture.
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Joedreck
15 Nov 2019 18:30
hampshire schrieb:

Sorry, that one is really good.

The "building mistakes" of tomorrow are usually trends or outdated technical solutions:
- walk-in closets at any cost, for example as dead ends off the bedroom
- heating systems using fossil fuels
- too many sealed surfaces
- all the parking space that hopefully won't be needed anymore
- living rooms centered around a TV
- things that suddenly turn out to be unhealthy – maybe forced ventilation systems


I also noticed the contradiction, don’t worry. It was money that was given to me as a gift years ago. I saved it and didn’t spend it on expensive clothes, etc. I think that’s a kind of “earned by saving.” At least, I didn’t have mommy and daddy pay for it. I wanted to make that clear ☺️
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guckuck2
15 Nov 2019 18:44
Scout schrieb:

Hopefully, the person who installed it originally was also a professional and properly routed the four conductors inside the empty conduit. So, you simply pull a new cable through the conduit—and voilà, the system works.

I would call it theory versus practice.
Besides, the claim that you can still do something useful with ISDN wiring just by swapping the outlet is questionable.
11ant15 Nov 2019 19:00
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Setting aside the claim that simply swapping the outlet on ISDN wiring could fix anything.

In practice, I rarely see cables with just four conductors; usually, there are at least 4-pair cables or two sets of four-core pairs inside the cable. With the first type, the extra conductors beyond the first eight are often carelessly discarded, probably because the non-electrician assumes that uncolored wires aren’t important, just spares or something. Often, simply replacing the outlet is enough—in practice, at least. I’m aware of the theory that modern LAN requires at least Category 6 cables, but I have frequently seen that remain just theory in practice. So, the common panic that a house is practically ready for demolition just because you see an ISDN outlet is exaggerated. I remain pretty relaxed about that until rarely proven otherwise.
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hanse987
15 Nov 2019 20:09
The issue with ISDN is the different topology compared to network cabling.