ᐅ Cost Comparison: Reinforced Concrete with Exterior Insulation and Finish System (EIFS) vs. Brick or Masonry with EIFS
Created on: 24 Jul 2019 08:45
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Bauherr am L
The structural engineer said that due to the window openings in our design, it would be best to construct both floors using reinforced concrete. However, this is reportedly much more expensive than other wall construction methods.
Does anyone have experience regarding the cost comparison of
- reinforced concrete plus plastered ETICS (external thermal insulation composite system)
- solid brick plus plaster
- masonry (e.g., calcium silicate blocks) plus plastered ETICS
Thank you
Does anyone have experience regarding the cost comparison of
- reinforced concrete plus plastered ETICS (external thermal insulation composite system)
- solid brick plus plaster
- masonry (e.g., calcium silicate blocks) plus plastered ETICS
Thank you
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nix zu schwör26 Jul 2019 14:18@Lumpi_LE
Anyone involved in and responsible for construction should have known this for decades. Every regional building code regulates the approval of construction products and requires appropriate documentation before construction begins, including proof of structural stability and thermal insulation.
The reason for these requirements before starting construction should be clear to you as well, since they are meant to protect the client and the public.
Moisture damage would be inevitable if a solid masonry wall were not insulated. Whether it’s brick or calcium silicate blocks does not matter in this context.
The structural engineer likely considered this and probably provided an alternative solution in the structural design.
Anyone involved in and responsible for construction should have known this for decades. Every regional building code regulates the approval of construction products and requires appropriate documentation before construction begins, including proof of structural stability and thermal insulation.
The reason for these requirements before starting construction should be clear to you as well, since they are meant to protect the client and the public.
Moisture damage would be inevitable if a solid masonry wall were not insulated. Whether it’s brick or calcium silicate blocks does not matter in this context.
The structural engineer likely considered this and probably provided an alternative solution in the structural design.
Have you ever heard of Poroton? It is the most commonly used building material for single-family homes in Germany.
And what is Poroton? A brick with which hundreds of single-family homes are built monolithically in Germany.
In your last post, you mentioned a solid brick. Maybe you mean a traditional brick that was used for construction about 100 years ago. However, no one would even consider using that nowadays...
And what is Poroton? A brick with which hundreds of single-family homes are built monolithically in Germany.
In your last post, you mentioned a solid brick. Maybe you mean a traditional brick that was used for construction about 100 years ago. However, no one would even consider using that nowadays...
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nix zu schwör26 Jul 2019 15:32@Lumpi_LE
This concerns a structural requirement.
As an alternative to reinforced concrete, only solid bricks are allowed.
Aerated concrete is a standard masonry material, as is Poroton.
With wall thicknesses below 36.5 cm (14 inches), no monolithic structure can be achieved without special compressive forces.
It should be assumed that the structural engineer is familiar with these values.
Additionally, they will have specified a strength class and mortar group.
This concerns a structural requirement.
As an alternative to reinforced concrete, only solid bricks are allowed.
Aerated concrete is a standard masonry material, as is Poroton.
With wall thicknesses below 36.5 cm (14 inches), no monolithic structure can be achieved without special compressive forces.
It should be assumed that the structural engineer is familiar with these values.
Additionally, they will have specified a strength class and mortar group.
nichts zu schwör schrieb:
A moisture damage would be inevitable if a solid masonry wall is left without insulation. It does not matter whether bricks or sand-lime bricks are used. I have the suspicion that you are equating "monolithic" with "solid masonry."
Lumpi_LE schrieb:
In your last post, you are now talking about solid masonry. Maybe you mean a traditional clay brick, which was commonly used 100 years ago. But nobody would even consider that idea nowadays... Actually, that is what this discussion is about:
Bauherr am L schrieb:
The structural engineer said regarding our design that, due to the window openings, it would be best to build both floors with reinforced concrete. … so it is about “higher strength masonry units” (or partially reinforced concrete columns) next to large window areas.
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nix zu schwör26 Jul 2019 15:38@ant11
I have a suspicion that you are equating "monolithic" with "solid masonry."
That is precisely why I am pointing out the approvals. (SFK and MG)
I have a suspicion that you are equating "monolithic" with "solid masonry."
That is precisely why I am pointing out the approvals. (SFK and MG)
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