ᐅ Building an End-Terrace House – What Technical Requirements Should Be Considered?
Created on: 4 Dec 2018 09:30
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goalkeeper
Hello everyone,
First of all, I would like to say a friendly hello to the group. I just registered because I couldn’t find any help on Google for my question.
We are planning to apply for a corner townhouse plot in our community. However, the municipality has not hired a developer to build the houses; instead, the houses have to be constructed independently by the owners.
There is a points system for the application, where factors like the number of children, how long you have lived in the community, and so on are weighted differently.
If you join forces with other interested parties and apply together, these points are added up, increasing your chances of being allocated a building plot. At the same time, you commit to building together, meaning you also have to coordinate with a developer.
We have tried to find people from our community, where we also live, who share the same ideas for building. This turned out to be impossible, as everyone has different opinions on how to build.
Therefore, we will probably apply alone for an end townhouse. However, I am now wondering if there are any laws or regulations regarding self-managed construction of townhouses? For example, if we build two full floors with an attic and a mono-pitched roof, is it allowed for the middle house to have a gable roof and only two full floors? Or does the first person to build set the standard that the others must follow?
Please forgive me if these are beginner questions — but I am one.
Thank you for your help!
First of all, I would like to say a friendly hello to the group. I just registered because I couldn’t find any help on Google for my question.
We are planning to apply for a corner townhouse plot in our community. However, the municipality has not hired a developer to build the houses; instead, the houses have to be constructed independently by the owners.
There is a points system for the application, where factors like the number of children, how long you have lived in the community, and so on are weighted differently.
If you join forces with other interested parties and apply together, these points are added up, increasing your chances of being allocated a building plot. At the same time, you commit to building together, meaning you also have to coordinate with a developer.
We have tried to find people from our community, where we also live, who share the same ideas for building. This turned out to be impossible, as everyone has different opinions on how to build.
Therefore, we will probably apply alone for an end townhouse. However, I am now wondering if there are any laws or regulations regarding self-managed construction of townhouses? For example, if we build two full floors with an attic and a mono-pitched roof, is it allowed for the middle house to have a gable roof and only two full floors? Or does the first person to build set the standard that the others must follow?
Please forgive me if these are beginner questions — but I am one.
Thank you for your help!
kaho674 schrieb:
Now present and introduce your general contractor nicely with pictures No.
goalkeeper schrieb:
However, it was clear that the other two families have not really engaged with the house construction yet. That means they won't be able to process or accept "factual arguments." Therefore, I definitely wouldn’t start by addressing the core issues here. The product in this case is not the general contractor but the neighbor. In other words, the community members need to leave with the feeling: "The Goalkeeper family are such nice people, we’d really like to work together with them."
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11ant schrieb:
they have to take home the feeling: "The Goalkeeper family are such nice people, we really enjoy working together with them." Yes, there is some truth to that. Grabbing a drink together first is never a bad idea.
11ant schrieb:
No.
That means they won’t be able to process or accept “factual arguments.” Therefore, I definitely wouldn’t start by addressing the issue head-on. The product here isn’t the general contractor, but the neighbor. In other words, the homeowners’ association members need to leave with the feeling: “The Goalkeeper family are such nice people; we’re happy to cooperate with them.”kaho674 schrieb:
Yes, that’s true. Starting by having a drink together is never a bad idea.Definitely score points with personality. Not with a house proposal.
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goalkeeper30 Mar 2019 10:12We will first get to know each other and discuss the most important aspects, such as the roof design.
If the question arises about where we have been so far, we will of course provide relevant information. However, we do not want to lead the conversation or express any preferences toward a particular general contractor.
Everyone should get to know the construction companies themselves and form their own opinion. What Family A likes very much, Family B might completely reject. This experience should be made personally and not be influenced in advance by our "recommendation."
If the question arises about where we have been so far, we will of course provide relevant information. However, we do not want to lead the conversation or express any preferences toward a particular general contractor.
Everyone should get to know the construction companies themselves and form their own opinion. What Family A likes very much, Family B might completely reject. This experience should be made personally and not be influenced in advance by our "recommendation."
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My regional manager’s favorite quote is: "If you want to build a ship, don’t give your men a blueprint, but teach them to long for the vast, open sea."
In this spirit, you first need to instill two feelings in your neighboring homeowners: namely, "Goalkeepers are nice people" and "Goalkeepers already have some experience with this topic."
You shouldn’t start with the roof shape as a technical parameter: starting with "gable roof or flat roof with a setback floor" steers the conversation toward facts. You can only inspire your neighbors on an emotional level, encouraging empathy to wish for a shared roof for your row of houses.
Fire compartments are of course necessary, but having a shared carpenter and a shared roofer is already a favorable situation (for this seamless construction goal).
Ideally, there are four consistent parameters throughout the entire row: 1. the same zero level at the top edge of the finished floor, 2. the same storey height, 2a. the same height of the knee wall (foot purlin height), 3. the same house depth, 4. the same roof pitch.
“1.” calls for a shared foundation and possibly cellar builder (you can be a mixed group of houses with and without basements; this is not an obstacle). Without “2.”, “2a.”, and “3.”, “4.” is not completely useless but significantly less beneficial.
Within this framework, there is still plenty of freedom — theoretically even enough for everyone to build exactly what the others would find the least attractive. So the most important message at this point is: consideration for the other neighbors does not restrict anyone, nor does it endanger anyone’s dream home in terms of style.
The goal of the first meeting should therefore be a sense of group cohesion, so that no one feels the need to act as a stubborn individualist.
In further meetings, it will be helpful to let others know that compromises need to be made on your side as well, for example that the corner whirlpool will have to be dropped. This helps neighbors accept their own compromises and prevents the feeling that these are simply charged to the “harmony with Goalkeepers” account.
Ideally, the neighbors will come to realize that it’s actually a real pity to have to “choose” the builder themselves, and that it’s best to use the one preferred by Goalkeepers (although everyone can subcontract individual trades or do some work themselves!).
At a following meeting, you could present a visualization showing how different the houses in a row with such a shared profile can appear visually. What works without problems is, for example, mixing monolithic houses with those having ETICS (external thermal insulation composite systems), or when everyone has different preferences for the masonry.
If there are no real blockheads involved, I don’t expect any trouble at first.
However, since you said the neighbors are still newbies in building matters, you should “expect” the classic false assumptions such as "prefab houses go faster."
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My regional manager’s favorite quote is: "If you want to build a ship, don’t give your men a blueprint, but teach them to long for the vast, open sea."
In this spirit, you first need to instill two feelings in your neighboring homeowners: namely, "Goalkeepers are nice people" and "Goalkeepers already have some experience with this topic."
You shouldn’t start with the roof shape as a technical parameter: starting with "gable roof or flat roof with a setback floor" steers the conversation toward facts. You can only inspire your neighbors on an emotional level, encouraging empathy to wish for a shared roof for your row of houses.
Fire compartments are of course necessary, but having a shared carpenter and a shared roofer is already a favorable situation (for this seamless construction goal).
Ideally, there are four consistent parameters throughout the entire row: 1. the same zero level at the top edge of the finished floor, 2. the same storey height, 2a. the same height of the knee wall (foot purlin height), 3. the same house depth, 4. the same roof pitch.
“1.” calls for a shared foundation and possibly cellar builder (you can be a mixed group of houses with and without basements; this is not an obstacle). Without “2.”, “2a.”, and “3.”, “4.” is not completely useless but significantly less beneficial.
Within this framework, there is still plenty of freedom — theoretically even enough for everyone to build exactly what the others would find the least attractive. So the most important message at this point is: consideration for the other neighbors does not restrict anyone, nor does it endanger anyone’s dream home in terms of style.
The goal of the first meeting should therefore be a sense of group cohesion, so that no one feels the need to act as a stubborn individualist.
In further meetings, it will be helpful to let others know that compromises need to be made on your side as well, for example that the corner whirlpool will have to be dropped. This helps neighbors accept their own compromises and prevents the feeling that these are simply charged to the “harmony with Goalkeepers” account.
Ideally, the neighbors will come to realize that it’s actually a real pity to have to “choose” the builder themselves, and that it’s best to use the one preferred by Goalkeepers (although everyone can subcontract individual trades or do some work themselves!).
At a following meeting, you could present a visualization showing how different the houses in a row with such a shared profile can appear visually. What works without problems is, for example, mixing monolithic houses with those having ETICS (external thermal insulation composite systems), or when everyone has different preferences for the masonry.
If there are no real blockheads involved, I don’t expect any trouble at first.
However, since you said the neighbors are still newbies in building matters, you should “expect” the classic false assumptions such as "prefab houses go faster."
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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goalkeeper31 Mar 2019 12:15Our meeting went very smoothly and pleasantly. However, everyone already has their firmly established preferences:
The middle house is almost ready to sign with Viebrockhaus and wants a basement and a gable roof.
The other end house originally wanted a shed roof but will go along with the 2 to 1 decision for a gable roof. Since they were surprised to get a plot at all, they are not really far along with planning. So, it looks like everyone will end up building their own house – which is actually a bit of a shame.
Now the basement issue needs to be clarified: since we don’t want one and the middle house does, is it cost-neutral if we wait with our slab foundation until the middle house’s basement is finished? Or do we still need to address or secure anything?
The middle house is almost ready to sign with Viebrockhaus and wants a basement and a gable roof.
The other end house originally wanted a shed roof but will go along with the 2 to 1 decision for a gable roof. Since they were surprised to get a plot at all, they are not really far along with planning. So, it looks like everyone will end up building their own house – which is actually a bit of a shame.
Now the basement issue needs to be clarified: since we don’t want one and the middle house does, is it cost-neutral if we wait with our slab foundation until the middle house’s basement is finished? Or do we still need to address or secure anything?
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