ᐅ Two-family house, one telecommunications connection – questions
Created on: 21 Mar 2019 17:54
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Hello everyone,
I built a two-family house together with my parents-in-law, and their living area is rented out.
During the construction, we had a new connection installed by the telecom provider in my garage.
So, there is a distribution point in my garage, and for my own unit, an additional outlet from the telecom provider.
Each living unit has a CAT7 cable running to this distribution point.
Now, the upcoming tenant wants to sign a contract with O2 for phone and internet service.
O2 is asking for written confirmation that a cable from the apartment to the distribution point exists.
Is this normal? Do I need to inform the tenant or O2 that they can install an outlet in my garage and that I will ensure the connection to the rental unit?
Or what would you suggest? I just want to understand the usual procedures and make sure I don’t make any mistakes.
Of course, I have to schedule the installation appointment with O2 since the tenant has no access to my garage.
I appreciate any advice or tips.
Best regards,
Tito
I built a two-family house together with my parents-in-law, and their living area is rented out.
During the construction, we had a new connection installed by the telecom provider in my garage.
So, there is a distribution point in my garage, and for my own unit, an additional outlet from the telecom provider.
Each living unit has a CAT7 cable running to this distribution point.
Now, the upcoming tenant wants to sign a contract with O2 for phone and internet service.
O2 is asking for written confirmation that a cable from the apartment to the distribution point exists.
Is this normal? Do I need to inform the tenant or O2 that they can install an outlet in my garage and that I will ensure the connection to the rental unit?
Or what would you suggest? I just want to understand the usual procedures and make sure I don’t make any mistakes.
Of course, I have to schedule the installation appointment with O2 since the tenant has no access to my garage.
I appreciate any advice or tips.
Best regards,
Tito
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readytorumble22 Mar 2019 08:18What exactly was ordered from the telecom company back then?
Was it already clear at that time that there would be two separate residential units?
In my opinion, only one connection was installed in your garage, so only a single pair of cables is connected to the "outside world."
Therefore, you would need to order a second connection from the telecom company, and they would have to install a second main network termination point (NTP) in your tenant’s premises.
The telecom network runs up to each respective main NTP. Neither you nor o2 would lose anything from that.
I can’t understand what your electrician was thinking. Or did they also not know that these are separate residential units requiring separate telephone connections, possibly with different providers?
Was it already clear at that time that there would be two separate residential units?
In my opinion, only one connection was installed in your garage, so only a single pair of cables is connected to the "outside world."
Therefore, you would need to order a second connection from the telecom company, and they would have to install a second main network termination point (NTP) in your tenant’s premises.
The telecom network runs up to each respective main NTP. Neither you nor o2 would lose anything from that.
I can’t understand what your electrician was thinking. Or did they also not know that these are separate residential units requiring separate telephone connections, possibly with different providers?
Share the internet with your tenant! For phone calls, you can add a second number with o2 for 4.99, or alternatively, get a number from sipgate so they would be independent from you.
Otherwise, if there is Cat6 cabling in the garage, what speaks against having the telecom provider install a TAE socket next to it and you connect to the apartment using the network cable?
Otherwise, if there is Cat6 cabling in the garage, what speaks against having the telecom provider install a TAE socket next to it and you connect to the apartment using the network cable?
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Deliverer22 Mar 2019 09:41tomtom79 schrieb:
Share your internet connection with your tenant! For phone calls, you can add a second number with o2 for 4.99, or alternatively get a number from sipgate, so your tenant would be independent from you.If it’s not kept within the family, it’s always a sensitive issue. Unfortunately, the liability for network interference (Störerhaftung) couldn’t be removed even with the latest legal amendment...
I also think that the telecom provider has to install a second outlet. Its exact location is secondary at first. However, the router (which must be connected to the outlet) should be accessible to your tenant. The connection between the two can, with the right adapters, definitely be run through existing network wiring. Of course, the wiring should be high quality, professionally installed, and kept as short as possible.
readytorumble schrieb:
In my opinion, only one connection has been installed in your garage, so only a double conductor cable is connected to the "outside world." This is the standard procedure: the main distribution point (MDP) connects only the house itself; only the order for the connection triggers the installation of the network termination device (NTD).
readytorumble schrieb:
Therefore, you would need to order a second connection from the telecom provider, and they would have to install a second monopoly NTD in your tenant's premises. That’s exactly what I have been saying ;-)
The subscriber line (the cabling from the exchange to the network termination device) is only fully complete with the NTD installed. Consequently, the connection provider can only lease the subscriber line from the infrastructure operator once it is fully established. This means the infrastructure operator is effectively always the initial provider of every telephone connection.
readytorumble schrieb:
The telecom provider's network runs up to the respective monopoly NTD. Neither you nor o2 have any control over it. Correct, formal collocation does not actually exist at the MDP. In practice, an o2 technician will provide the connection later—but only once the monopoly NTD from the telecom provider is in place (which is what o2 was referring to).
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