We want to renovate our bathroom and have chosen 2.5cm (1 inch) mosaic tiles for the entire bathroom (walls and floor, about 30m² (322 ft²)).
The quote from the tiler has become significantly more expensive as a result.
“Because it requires cleaner work and more effort.”
The laying cost alone has increased by $1200, and the preparatory work by $2500 – all plus VAT.
The preparatory work also includes machine costs, which have risen from $1000 to $2500.
We cannot understand this, as we assumed that smaller tiles on mesh backing would be easier and faster to install. It is even recommended for beginners to do it themselves because it is supposedly easier.
You often read that there are surcharges for large tiles, also “because cleaner work is required… see above,” and now also for small tiles?
Basically, we always expect work to be done carefully.
It raises the suspicion that a surcharge is now generally charged whenever the tile size differs from the one that nobody wants to install anyway.
Question: Is the surcharge justified? If not, what would be acceptable?
The quote from the tiler has become significantly more expensive as a result.
“Because it requires cleaner work and more effort.”
The laying cost alone has increased by $1200, and the preparatory work by $2500 – all plus VAT.
The preparatory work also includes machine costs, which have risen from $1000 to $2500.
We cannot understand this, as we assumed that smaller tiles on mesh backing would be easier and faster to install. It is even recommended for beginners to do it themselves because it is supposedly easier.
You often read that there are surcharges for large tiles, also “because cleaner work is required… see above,” and now also for small tiles?
Basically, we always expect work to be done carefully.
It raises the suspicion that a surcharge is now generally charged whenever the tile size differs from the one that nobody wants to install anyway.
Question: Is the surcharge justified? If not, what would be acceptable?
We had mosaic tiles installed on the front wall of the shower, specifically the expensive glass mosaic (2 square meters / 360€).
It was apparently a multi-component adhesive—the tiler wore a respirator and had to cut each individual tile at the edge by snapping it instead of simply cutting it.
The joints often have to be scraped clean of adhesive so the grout can properly adhere.
YES, IT IS A LOT OF WORK!
It was apparently a multi-component adhesive—the tiler wore a respirator and had to cut each individual tile at the edge by snapping it instead of simply cutting it.
The joints often have to be scraped clean of adhesive so the grout can properly adhere.
YES, IT IS A LOT OF WORK!
Crustulum schrieb:
I just have the impression that there is always an extra charge added. Large tiles, small tiles, no matter, there’s an extra cost. Simply because they can.That might be the case. But I have never heard of mosaics being cheaper than tiles. It’s best if you get a few comparable quotes so you can better assess whether the additional cost is justified.Regards
Isn't it a different matter with the glass mosaic and the special adhesive? We don’t use that at all where I am.
I mean, of course tiling is a task—it is still “work” after all... but it’s simply the job. It’s always a question of how much extra cost is acceptable.
And whether it is “not easy to install” and you have to “be careful” and work “carefully”—I would basically ALWAYS expect a professional to do that and be able to handle it.
I mean, of course tiling is a task—it is still “work” after all... but it’s simply the job. It’s always a question of how much extra cost is acceptable.
And whether it is “not easy to install” and you have to “be careful” and work “carefully”—I would basically ALWAYS expect a professional to do that and be able to handle it.
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HilfeHilfe3 May 2018 10:29Crustulum schrieb:
Isn't it a different matter with the glass mosaic tiles and the special adhesive? We don’t use that at all here.
I mean, sure, tiling is always some effort—it is after all a “job”... but it’s simply the task at hand. The real question is how much extra cost would be acceptable.
And whether it’s "not easy to install" and you have to "be careful" and work "carefully"... honestly, I would ALWAYS expect a professional to do that and be capable.Have you ever done a puzzle in your life??
If not, please buy an 80 x 100 cm (31 x 39 inch) puzzle:
- one for toddlers with 20 pieces
- one for adults with 200 pieces
Which one will be finished faster?
HilfeHilfe schrieb:
Have you ever done a puzzle in your life??
If not, please buy an 80 x 100 cm (31 x 39 inches) puzzle:
- one for toddlers with 20 pieces
- one for adults with 200 pieces
Which one will be faster?The puzzle with just one piece. But ask the tiler how easy it is to install a tile like that on the wall ;-) Our kitchen countertop tiles measure 60 x 120 cm (24 x 47 inches).
There is a "standard range" of tile sizes that do not incur additional costs, and then there are formats in both directions that simply require more work and are therefore more expensive. Mosaic tiles (which are usually around 30cm x 30cm (12 inches x 12 inches)) are generally lighter in weight than a 60cm x 120cm (24 inches x 48 inches) tile, but they tend to be more complex in terms of grout lines and alignment. All grout lines must match up correctly.
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