ᐅ Cost Factors for Building a House – Is There a Checklist?

Created on: 17 Oct 2017 11:33
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Peter L
Hello everyone,

We are planning to buy a plot of land next year and want to start familiarizing ourselves with the topic now, so we are prepared when the time comes. At the moment, we are looking into several prefab house suppliers, but we are leaning more toward self-building.

So far, I’m not sure which professionals or contractors are needed for self-building and what exactly each of them does. For example, who is responsible for the foundation slab or basement, and what else does that company handle? Do I need to arrange a crane myself, or does the contractor take care of that? I have some idea about the heating technician and electrician roles, but I’ve also heard that the heating technician might install the drainpipes. The shell construction is done by bricklayers, but what else do they do, and what tasks still need to be completed?

I hope my questions make sense. It would be great to have an Excel sheet listing all the points, ideally divided by construction phases and including price ranges for reference. I want to understand which contractor I need first and what services they provide. Then I can gather information and get quotes, followed by the next contractor, and so on. Of course, there are optional aspects like smart home systems, but I know, for example, that these are installed by the electrician. So if I want system XY, I can specifically look for an electrician who handles both general house wiring and that system.

I also want to use this list as a checklist and cost control tool during construction. That means comparing our planned costs with the actual expenses.

Do such lists exist? I would also be willing to pay for a very good list or even a program if it is comprehensive and useful.

Thanks in advance :-)
Peter
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Steffen80
17 Oct 2017 14:42
Peter L. schrieb:
Hello everyone,

We are planning to buy a plot of land next year and want to start getting familiar with the topic now so we are prepared when the time comes. At the moment, we are looking into some prefabricated house suppliers, but we are leaning more toward self-build.

So far, I can’t really estimate which professionals are needed for self-building and what exactly each of them does. For example, who is responsible for the foundation or basement, and what else does that company handle? Do I need to arrange a crane myself, or does that professional take care of it directly? I have some idea about the heating engineer and electrician, but I’ve also heard that the heating engineer might install the drain pipes. The structural work is done by bricklayers, but what else do they do, and what tasks are still required?

I hope you understand my concerns. It would be great to have an Excel list of all the points, ideally divided by construction phases and including price ranges for guidance. I want to see which professional I need first and what work they cover. Then I can research and request quotes. After that, I contact the next professional, and so on. Of course, there are optional things like smart home systems, but I know, for example, that the electrician can handle that. So, if I want system XY, I can specifically look for an electrician who installs the system in addition to the regular electrical work.

I would like to use this list as a checklist and cost control during construction, comparing planned costs with actual expenses.

Do such lists exist? I would even be willing to pay if it’s a really good list or even a program.

Thanks in advance :-)
Peter

Do you have a budget? Increase it by 50%. That’s already the most important step 🙂
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Peter L
17 Oct 2017 18:40
Hello everyone, I expected responses like these, and while I always appreciate replies, only one of them is truly constructive. Thanks @Zaba12!! The DIN 276 covers all cost items, but as you correctly suspected, I am looking for an adapted list. The note that such a list does not exist is unfortunately helpful ;-) I had hoped to use this as a starting point, but it looks like it will be DIN 276 combined with advice from this forum.

Regarding the other comments... Yes, I am still relatively early in the process, but everyone is initially inexperienced or a beginner in any field. Thanks to your advice, I would not be where I am today. I do not intend to build the house entirely myself, although a friend of mine did. He built it over a longer period, but afterwards, an appraiser valued the house significantly higher because it reached an above-average quality level.
I have also learned what professions some developers had before... They are hardly ever really qualified for this work. According to your opinion, "no one" should start this, yet you suggest I should rely on these people ;-)
ypg schrieb:
Are there standard lists? Every house is somehow different: if you want brick cladding, you build differently than with plaster. A pitched roof requires a different structure than a flat roof.

That’s true, but whether brick cladding or plaster, both are done by a service provider. Key point: exterior facade. For the other topic, I am with the carpenter and roofer. Again, whether pitched roof or hipped roof does not matter.
Steffen80 schrieb:
Do you have a budget? Increase it by 50%. Then you’ve already taken the most important step 🙂

Reasoning?
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Zaba12
17 Oct 2017 18:57
Peter L. schrieb:
Hello everyone, I was expecting responses like these, and while I always appreciate any replies, only one was truly constructive. Thanks to @Zaba12!! The DIN 276 covers all cost items, but as you rightly guessed, I am looking for a customized list. The note that such a list doesn’t exist is "unfortunately" helpful ;-) I had hoped to use it as a starting point, but it looks like it will just be DIN 276 combined with the advice from this forum.

Regarding the other comments... Yes, I am still quite early in the process, but everyone is a beginner or inexperienced in any field at first. Without your advice, I wouldn’t be where I am today. I don’t intend to build the house entirely myself, although a friend did. It took him longer, but in retrospect, an appraiser valued the house significantly higher because an above-average quality was achieved.
I have also heard about the previous professions of some developers... They are rarely truly qualified for this trade. According to your opinion, “no one” should start, but then I’m expected to rely on those people ;-)

That’s true, but whether brick veneer or plaster, both are done by a contractor. The keyword here is exterior facade. For the other topic, I am dealing with the carpenter and roofer. Again, regardless of whether it’s a gable roof or a hipped roof.

Reason?

That wasn’t difficult after the comment from @Steffen80.
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Steffen80
18 Oct 2017 08:31
Reason? Because 90% of builders start out in the "dream phase" and end up spending significantly more than originally planned. I registered here in 2012… just take a look at my first posts to see the numbers I based my plans on back then.
Basti270918 Oct 2017 10:06
Which service provider covers what?

> Notary (land purchase)
> Surveyor (surveying, registrations)
> Planner/Architect (planning, applications, supervision, preparation of specifications, tendering, monitoring / depending on contract)
> Utility provider (connection from the street to the utility room)

> Shell construction contractor did the following for us:
- Civil engineering work for the slab/foundations
- Construction of foundations and slab
- Concrete and steelwork
- Masonry work
- Interior plastering
- Screed
- Facade
- Drywall construction

For the following trades, they subcontracted or we tendered ourselves or carried out as self-performed work:

> Electrician (power, satellite, telephone, internet)
> Heating/plumbing (water, wastewater, heating)
> Carpenter/joiner (windows & doors)
> Joiner/carpenter (roof structure, possibly including roofing)
> Roofer (roof covering)
> Tiler/floor layer
> Painter (wallpapering)
[B]> Additional civil engineer (paving work and landscaping)

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Peter L
18 Oct 2017 14:24
Steffen80 schrieb:
Reason? Because 90% of home builders are in the "dream phase" at the beginning and end up spending significantly more than originally planned. I registered here in 2012… just take a look at my first posts to see the numbers I started with.
What bothered me about your first post was simply the assumption ;-) We have already spoken to several builders and architects, and our financial expectations are solid and even somewhat on the high side. But I know ourselves, and you’re right, people often end up spending more or want more than they can afford. I try to counteract this by
1. preparing a solid cost breakdown and controlling expenses during the construction phase
2. including enough contingency

This is also one reason why we are somewhat cautious about prefabricated houses. It’s often said that not all costs are mentioned upfront and that a lot of work needs to be done by the owner later on. Additionally, the selections (finishes and fittings) usually happen quite late and no one can provide a clear estimate of how much it will cost.

I’ve read your early posts and the prices back then were amazing. At €50 per sqm (about $55 per sq ft), we wouldn’t even consider it ;-) Currently, we hope our price will not exceed €350 per sqm (about $33 per sq ft). The price is not fixed yet, and recent plots of land were around €320 per sqm (about $31 per sq ft).
The price for a basement single-family house was very low as well. Of course, it’s hard to estimate now because inflation has to be taken into account, but for reference:
Our current budget is €600,000 (about $660,000), planning for a 400–500 sqm (4300–5400 sq ft) plot, with a two-story urban villa of approximately 160–200 sqm (1700–2150 sq ft) on a slab foundation.

@Basti2709
Thanks for the list. That already helps a lot. I wouldn’t have thought that the shell builder covers so many things. I would have guessed it more like:
- Civil engineering work, slab foundation
- Masonry, concrete and steel work, screed, facade
- Drywall installation
- Interior plaster

Thanks for all the info!