ᐅ We had the foundations and the slab poured.

Created on: 20 Jul 2017 18:37
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bau.herr
bau.herr20 Jul 2017 18:37
Hello everyone

We had the foundations and the base slab poured. There was a large concrete pump truck and several trucks delivering concrete. From the delivery note, I saw that some of the concrete was discharged more than 90 minutes after being mixed at the plant. Water was also added in some cases, which was not noted on the delivery ticket.

Now the question: is it a problem that some of the concrete was somewhat "old" and that water was added in an unplanned way?

In a regulation I read, it said that ready-mixed concrete should be discharged from the mixer truck within 90 minutes.

I’m worried whether this is acceptable.

Thank you in advance
Regards
RobsonMKK20 Jul 2017 19:01
Basic question: should or must?
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BratacDD
20 Jul 2017 19:13
Hello,

When water is added, it changes the water/cement ratio. This ratio is responsible for the strength of the concrete. Could the added substance have been a retarder or a plasticizer? Both are concrete admixtures that do not have to be listed on the delivery note; only the concrete type and setting time are indicated there.
bau.herr20 Jul 2017 19:33
RobsonMKK schrieb:
Layman’s question: should or must?

I understand “should” in the sense of should = must.
BratacDD schrieb:
Could the additive have been a retarder or a plasticizer?

No, it was water. This was also added by hand in writing.
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BratacDD
20 Jul 2017 21:14
Whether this affects the quality of the foundation slab cannot be answered with certainty. However, from a concrete technology perspective, it is fundamentally incorrect to add water to improve workability. The additional water in the cement paste leads to greater shrinkage and reduced strength. If you search for water/cement ratio and concrete strength online, you will likely find relevant charts. If you have concerns, you should consult your construction supervisor or an expert. Depending on the contract situation, this could be an independent specialist who can assess whether the shell construction company has done a poor job or not.
bau.herr22 Jul 2017 12:47
I have now asked the company for a statement and will withhold the payment.
Do I need to file a defect notice immediately, or should I wait for the statement first?