ᐅ Home Automation Planning and Costs

Created on: 15 Jan 2014 16:54
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kirsel
Hello,

for our planned new build, I would like to automate as much as my budget allows. A central control system (touchscreen/app) for blinds, underfloor heating, and possibly indoor/outdoor lighting. Since I’m not familiar with this topic, I have two basic questions:

1). What approximate costs should I expect if about 170sqm (1,830 sqft) of living space including bathroom, toilet, hallway, 4 living rooms, and garage are to be automated? Of course, I understand you can’t give me an exact estimate.

2). How should I best approach my planning? Since I assume my budget won’t cover everything at once, I want to at least make all necessary preparations during construction. That way, I can add features later without having to open up walls. Sort of like preparing the roof for solar panels in advance…

Looking forward to your answers
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Legurit
23 Aug 2016 00:17
I am of the (unpopular) opinion that this is all just hype.
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Tom1607
23 Aug 2016 04:58
If I consider a long overdue technology in a house as just a hype, then I would say we might as well go back to the Stone Age. Why use an electric stove when a fire in the cave is enough?

Just compare your car to your house.

Underfloor heating and electric blinds are, in my opinion, comfort features that, like power windows in a car, simply belong in a new build today. And once these are installed in the house, a solution with KNX is cheaper than traditional wiring.

Why install a bunch of individual switches on the wall when, in the end, it’s more cost-effective to go with KNX from the start? Plus, you get additional functions included at no extra cost.

You just need to educate yourself a bit so you can keep your electrician in check if they try to artificially raise the price with “sky-high” rates.
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Marko958
23 Aug 2016 05:23
But is KNX really cheaper? After all, the electrician has to install everything in a star topology, which they wouldn’t normally do. This not only costs more materials but also much more labor time. Or am I mistaken?

I would like to use KNX to control the blinds centrally and because of the nicer switches, but I’m afraid it will be too expensive.
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Legurit
23 Aug 2016 07:23
I also have heating and electric roller shutters. The heating system is so slow that I can’t really adjust it, and the roller shutters have switches – I don’t know if they were more expensive than KNX. I don’t really need KNX for either.
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Sebastian79
23 Aug 2016 08:06
BeHaElJa schrieb:
I hold the (unpopular) opinion that this is all just hype

I doubt that, because KNX is such a niche product and will remain so in single-family homes in the long run – the perception just gets distorted a bit in forums.

I think KNX is cool, but for me, it remains a gadget that I don’t need. The often mentioned possibilities for expansions and redesigns are only actually carried out by enthusiasts in real life, and even they eventually stop. Those who rely on a professional definitely won’t be tinkering with it...

Synohr is funny too, but I still think it’s as odd as voice control on a smartphone.

I prefer traditional switches – honestly. Installing them combined with motion sensors works well.
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ONeill
23 Aug 2016 08:33
When looking for a home builder, I noticed that home automation is becoming an increasingly significant part of the offers and construction specifications. I also reviewed the scope of work document we are building with, as well as the new scope of work from our provider. The demand is steadily growing. Currently, proprietary systems are still being used. These are far from being true smart homes, but every journey has to start somewhere. KNX faces many prejudices and a lack of knowledge among electricians, which does not help with faster adoption. If someone recognizes this gap, it could certainly be good for business.