ᐅ Looking for Ideas and Experiences for the Upper Floor

Created on: 16 Feb 2016 23:41
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Mike12345678901
Hello everyone,

we are currently working on the second floor plan for the upper floor and are struggling to find a good solution.
We have planned an L-shaped house with a gallery. We currently have two versions for the upper floor, but neither fully convinces us. Maybe someone here has a good idea.

Requirements:
  • The staircase and gallery should remain in their current positions.
  • The bathroom can be either at the top (north) or in the middle right (east).
  • A dormer is not planned; roof windows will be added where necessary in the next step.
  • Windows are not shown in the plan but will be placed at the top (north) and bottom (south).
  • The gable roof is open at both top and bottom, so the roof surfaces face east and west.


In Version 1 we like:
  • Sufficiently large children’s rooms
  • Bathroom is acceptable

We don’t like:
  • Master bedroom and walk-in closet are too large
  • Gallery space is reduced

In Version 2 we like:
  • Master bedroom and walk-in closet are well sized
  • Very little wasted space

We don’t like:
  • Layout of the children’s rooms (!!)
  • Bathroom is too large

Do you have any tips, ideas, or suggestions for improvements?
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Mike12345678901
17 Feb 2016 07:56
Of course, we also have the plan for the ground floor. However, we made changes to the entrance area yesterday, so it is not up to date.
As soon as the new version is ready, I will provide the updated ground floor plan.
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Sebastian79
17 Feb 2016 08:08
Mike12345678901 schrieb:
We don’t really like either option, but we have no idea how to improve it. 🤨

Don’t you have anyone to design the house for you and take your wishes into account? I don’t see it as rigidly as in that “expert builder” forum, but if you realize that drawing it yourself isn’t working, I would hire someone who knows what they’re doing.
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Mike12345678901
17 Feb 2016 08:28
Sebastian79 schrieb:
Don’t you have anyone to design the house for you and accommodate your wishes? I don’t see it as rigidly as in that builder “expert” forum, but if you realize yourself that drawing it on your own doesn’t work, I would hire someone who knows what they’re doing.

We approached a construction company in our area with our ideas.
We liked the initial floor plan, but we wanted larger children’s rooms (originally 11m² (118 sq ft) – which was too small for us) and an entrance hall or vestibule on the ground floor.

The first draft for the upper floor from the construction company is the one posted here in this thread.
We do not have an architect.
lastdrop17 Feb 2016 08:33
Mike12345678901 schrieb:

We don’t have an architect.

But that’s exactly the point Sebastian79 is making, which you can also see in the floor plans. Many things are possible, but that doesn’t mean they are good. Especially when I have specific ideas, I need someone who can incorporate them effectively.
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ypg
17 Feb 2016 08:48
Firstly: upper floor designs strongly depend on the knee wall height. How is it here, and how is it handled with the L-shape? Is there a higher knee wall on the west side?

Secondly: I generally like the room layout but would omit the door between the bedroom and bathroom, move the bedroom door further up the plan, and remove the wall to the walk-in closet, so you can start a row of wardrobes right behind the door.

By the way, we have a walk-in closet of about 6-point-something square meters with a knee wall height of 1.25 meters (4 feet), and it works perfectly for two people. Besides shelves and dressers, there is a stool, a chair, and a floor-length mirror. So, it’s not always helpful to generalize 🙂
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Mike12345678901
17 Feb 2016 08:54
lastdrop schrieb:
But that’s exactly the point Sebastian79 is making, and you can also see it from the floor plans. Just because something is "possible" doesn’t mean it’s "good." Especially if I have specific ideas, I need someone who can incorporate them in a sensible way.

For now, we are dealing with a construction company, not an architect.
We can continue discussions about the pros and cons of construction companies versus architects here https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/architekt-oder-bauunternehmen.14665/.