ᐅ Site development timing: Before building road construction or after debris removal?
Created on: 23 Jul 2020 06:59
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Spike86
Good morning
Last week, we submitted the building permit application (as an expedited process, since there is no zoning plan). Now we are considering whether it makes sense or is even possible to connect the utilities before starting construction. The problem is that we have a flag lot, and the driveway runs to the back through the neighbor’s property. Once the construction road is set up, access to the utilities will be blocked, and we would only be able to connect them after construction is completed and the construction road is removed... wouldn’t that be too late? Isn’t a water connection needed beforehand so the plumbing contractor can test the toilet flushing? We are a bit unsure about this. Another issue is that the neighbor’s house is very close to the driveway and has a full basement. Therefore, part of the construction road would need to be reinforced. Do you have any tips on how to do this or if it is necessary? A friend once recommended these mats that distribute the weight. With these, an 11-ton (12 US ton) excavator (loaded up to 16 tons / 17.6 US tons) was able to pass without causing any damage.
It’s early in the morning, so I hope this is clear enough. If not, please ask, and I will try to explain it better.
Best regards and thanks in advance!
Last week, we submitted the building permit application (as an expedited process, since there is no zoning plan). Now we are considering whether it makes sense or is even possible to connect the utilities before starting construction. The problem is that we have a flag lot, and the driveway runs to the back through the neighbor’s property. Once the construction road is set up, access to the utilities will be blocked, and we would only be able to connect them after construction is completed and the construction road is removed... wouldn’t that be too late? Isn’t a water connection needed beforehand so the plumbing contractor can test the toilet flushing? We are a bit unsure about this. Another issue is that the neighbor’s house is very close to the driveway and has a full basement. Therefore, part of the construction road would need to be reinforced. Do you have any tips on how to do this or if it is necessary? A friend once recommended these mats that distribute the weight. With these, an 11-ton (12 US ton) excavator (loaded up to 16 tons / 17.6 US tons) was able to pass without causing any damage.
It’s early in the morning, so I hope this is clear enough. If not, please ask, and I will try to explain it better.
Best regards and thanks in advance!
Nida35a schrieb:
@Spike86
Built 2 years ago in Berlin, back plot, 60m (197 feet) to the utility room,
1. Excavation for construction road
2. Excavation for utility trench
3. Laying from property boundary up to the height of the utility room
- Wastewater pipes 100mm (4 inches) up to the previous property owner, then 125mm (5 inches) to the street, with two T-pieces as inspection points along the way
- Empty conduit for water utility (blue) with pull rope
- Empty conduit for telecom (gray HT) with pull rope
- Power cable 5x50mm² from power box to utility room + 10m (33 feet) spare for connection
- Two 5x2.5mm² cables and 8x0.8mm² cables (for pathway lighting, sockets, gate opener, video doorbell system)
- No gas
4. Backfilling trench
5. Building construction road up to 1m (3.3 feet) before the foundation slab
6. Electrician connected the cable to the gray box and temporary power at the rear,
Temporary construction water via previous owner,
7. House construction
8. After scaffolding removal, opened 2x1m (6.6x3.3 feet) at the utility room and 2x2m (6.6x6.6 feet) at the street, called water and telecom (if you don’t come now, you have to dig yourselves), after 4 days everything was connected,
9. Move-in via the construction road
10. Paving, terrace, garden, fencing system,
The fence was finished 8 weeks ago
Regards, Nida I need to come back to this... We finally received the building permit and want to start with the utilities. We also have a contact who will handle all the installations (conduits, wastewater). Now the Berlin Water Utility (BWB) wants a certified installer certificate for who will do the connection of the inspection chamber, meaning the contact who should do it as a self-installation is no longer an option?! We’re really at our limit now, every time something new comes up... Now we have to hire an official installer for an expensive fee to do the connection.
How did you handle this? With the underground installer from Schönefeld you mentioned?
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vorkalmatador29 Oct 2020 07:30Spike86 schrieb:
I need to come back to this... We finally got the building permit/planning permission and want to start with the utilities. We also have a contact who will install everything for us (conduits, wastewater). Now the water company (BWB – Berliner Wasserbetriebe) is asking for a plumber’s certification for who will connect the inspection chamber, meaning the contact who was supposed to do it as a DIY job is no longer an option?! We’re really at our wits’ end; there’s always something new coming up... Now we have to hire an official plumber at a high cost to make the connection.
How did you handle this? With the civil engineer from Schönefeld you mentioned? The plumber’s certification is required for everything after the water meter, so everything inside the house, you do understand that, right?
It has nothing to do with digging the trenches or installing conduits.
No, we weren’t aware of that. Since this topic is completely new territory for us. Even after countless phone calls with the responsible authorities, we often didn’t get any clearer answers... I mean, where else are you supposed to get the information from if not from the experts?
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vorkalmatador29 Oct 2020 08:22Well, we are also (hopefully) close to getting the building permit / planning permission (also in Berlin), and I simply called the water utility company to ask which work the installer certificate covers.
