Bauexperte schrieb:
And does that automatically mean less manual labor is involved?On one hand, there is less waste material; on the other hand, I imagine that if each step has a different shape, more manual work would be involved.
When I have a straight staircase tiled, I also assume that tiling is easier compared to when each step has a different shape.
I have another question on a different topic.
Since we don’t want to stretch our financial limits and want to keep some reserves, we are currently going through our offer item by item.
Today it’s not about the staircase, but about a ladder.
According to the current plans, unfortunately, our chimney will not exit near the ridge on our tent roof (25° roof pitch).
According to regulations (DIN V 18160), the end of the chimney must be either 40cm (16 inches) above the ridge or more than 1 meter (39 inches) away from the roof at a 90° angle. In our case, with both options, the chimney would be about 1.20 meters (47 inches) high. The seller says the chimney sweep then needs a ladder attached directly to the chimney next to the roof steps, since they can only comfortably clean up to 1 meter (39 inches) in height.
I understand that a small chimney sweep might have problems cleaning the chimney beyond a certain height. But this ladder is quoted at an additional cost of €700. I find this price quite high for bridging a maximum height difference of 20cm (8 inches).
Online, I found various roof ladders for chimney sweeps at much lower prices (€40–70 depending on color). These seem to be fixed ladders resting on or leaning against the roof surface. Mounting hardware is usually included.
What I haven’t found are permanently fixed ladders attached directly to the chimney. The materials for these ladders probably aren’t very different, but the fastening and load distribution must be somewhat more complex than for the roof ladders.
Charging more than ten times the price for that seems excessive to me.
Should we remove the ladder from the offer for now and discuss with the chimney sweep what exactly they need?
Where are the roof steps usually installed in relation to the roof pitch? Below the chimney, next to it, or above it?
If the roof steps could be installed above the chimney, the height difference between the step and the chimney edge should be reduced.
I would appreciate any advice.
Musketier
Since we don’t want to stretch our financial limits and want to keep some reserves, we are currently going through our offer item by item.
Today it’s not about the staircase, but about a ladder.
According to the current plans, unfortunately, our chimney will not exit near the ridge on our tent roof (25° roof pitch).
According to regulations (DIN V 18160), the end of the chimney must be either 40cm (16 inches) above the ridge or more than 1 meter (39 inches) away from the roof at a 90° angle. In our case, with both options, the chimney would be about 1.20 meters (47 inches) high. The seller says the chimney sweep then needs a ladder attached directly to the chimney next to the roof steps, since they can only comfortably clean up to 1 meter (39 inches) in height.
I understand that a small chimney sweep might have problems cleaning the chimney beyond a certain height. But this ladder is quoted at an additional cost of €700. I find this price quite high for bridging a maximum height difference of 20cm (8 inches).
Online, I found various roof ladders for chimney sweeps at much lower prices (€40–70 depending on color). These seem to be fixed ladders resting on or leaning against the roof surface. Mounting hardware is usually included.
What I haven’t found are permanently fixed ladders attached directly to the chimney. The materials for these ladders probably aren’t very different, but the fastening and load distribution must be somewhat more complex than for the roof ladders.
Charging more than ten times the price for that seems excessive to me.
Should we remove the ladder from the offer for now and discuss with the chimney sweep what exactly they need?
Where are the roof steps usually installed in relation to the roof pitch? Below the chimney, next to it, or above it?
If the roof steps could be installed above the chimney, the height difference between the step and the chimney edge should be reduced.
I would appreciate any advice.
Musketier
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