ᐅ Renovation/Extension. Issue with Building Area and Redesign Considerations
Created on: 21 Jun 2024 22:01
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Gt5.0_20Hello everyone
I am renovating my parents’ house in Baden-Württemberg and we have planned to convert it into a 6-unit multi-family building, as the space is no longer needed in old age. We will also add an additional floor and an extension.







Due to the many required parking spaces (1.5 per housing unit), we are currently 4m2 (43 sq ft) below the maximum allowable surface area. The problem is that I would have to demolish our swimming pool (existing structure) because of this. I find this idea terrible (pool replaced by parking space), and the architect is currently overwhelmed or fully booked, so she is no longer putting in the effort she did at the beginning. I hope to find some great ideas here.
A tip in advance: the neighbors are unfortunately not very open to changes. Special exceptions are therefore unlikely... no exceeding of any limits at least.
I thought maybe parking spaces 6 and 7 could get a carport. Is that possible with the required setbacks and the existing garage area?
As I understand it, these two parking spaces would then count as “countable covered above-ground parking spaces” (see picture), which, together with reducing the path width to the bike rack to 1m (3 feet 3 inches), would free up the few square meters required for the pool.
Is all of this feasible? I am very open to additional or new ideas and perspectives.
P.S. If anyone is interested in more details, views, or plans, just let me know.
According to current building regulations, I would never be allowed to rebuild the pool there again, so I really do not want to give it up.
Thanks in advance and best regards
Sam
I am renovating my parents’ house in Baden-Württemberg and we have planned to convert it into a 6-unit multi-family building, as the space is no longer needed in old age. We will also add an additional floor and an extension.
Due to the many required parking spaces (1.5 per housing unit), we are currently 4m2 (43 sq ft) below the maximum allowable surface area. The problem is that I would have to demolish our swimming pool (existing structure) because of this. I find this idea terrible (pool replaced by parking space), and the architect is currently overwhelmed or fully booked, so she is no longer putting in the effort she did at the beginning. I hope to find some great ideas here.
A tip in advance: the neighbors are unfortunately not very open to changes. Special exceptions are therefore unlikely... no exceeding of any limits at least.
I thought maybe parking spaces 6 and 7 could get a carport. Is that possible with the required setbacks and the existing garage area?
As I understand it, these two parking spaces would then count as “countable covered above-ground parking spaces” (see picture), which, together with reducing the path width to the bike rack to 1m (3 feet 3 inches), would free up the few square meters required for the pool.
Is all of this feasible? I am very open to additional or new ideas and perspectives.
P.S. If anyone is interested in more details, views, or plans, just let me know.
According to current building regulations, I would never be allowed to rebuild the pool there again, so I really do not want to give it up.
Thanks in advance and best regards
Sam
I wonder how parking spaces 2, 3, and 7 can exit if the cars parked in front of them do not move. There seems to be a lack of order and zoning here.
I’m not interested in analyzing the submitted documents right now, but who is the target audience? Do all the apartments look like this? When you mention 6 units, is it a six-story building? Apartment 2 is already quite spacious.
I’m not interested in analyzing the submitted documents right now, but who is the target audience? Do all the apartments look like this? When you mention 6 units, is it a six-story building? Apartment 2 is already quite spacious.
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nordanney21 Jun 2024 23:30ypg schrieb:
I wonder how parking spaces 2, 3, and 7 can be exited if the cars in front of them are not moved. There seems to be a lack of order and zoning. Convert the garage into duplex parking if it’s already being extensively renovated. That way, you immediately get four (usable) parking spaces. Otherwise, the rest of the spaces are just drawn in without any real sense, as they are practically unusable.
ypg schrieb:
I’m not in the mood to analyze the submitted documents right now, but who is the target group? Do all apartments look like this? If you say there are six units, is it a six-story building? Apartment 2 is already quite spacious... The rest will be converted into micro-apartments to generate the highest possible returns.
Gt5.0_20 schrieb:
therefore I really don’t want to have to give it up… Honestly? As you get older, you won’t need the space anymore or won’t be able to use it. The same will happen with the swimming pool. The main thing is to have it — even if you no longer need or use it. Besides, as a user (probably the residents of apartment 2), you definitely wouldn’t want tenants constantly staring. A swimming pool is something for a single-family home, not for a multi-family building.
To sum it up: You don’t need it, the neighbors don’t want it, and the city does not allow it.
At the moment, you can’t make money with something like that either. So what exactly is the purpose? To become extremely unpopular and overload the property? Aren’t there better investment options?
At the moment, you can’t make money with something like that either. So what exactly is the purpose? To become extremely unpopular and overload the property? Aren’t there better investment options?
Somehow strange
Why would you want to have a pool again at a multi-family rental property, which is an investment, for whatever reason?
I would be more concerned about the fact that many strangers will be living in my parents’ house. Selling a single-family home can be emotionally difficult, but often you hand it over with good feelings and/or can find closure.
Converting a single-family house into a six-family building and renting it out means, as can be clearly seen here, a serious strain on the property and a cause of conflict with the neighbors.
That does not surprise me.
However, keeping the pool is rather secondary in this case and the pool itself is dispensable. Or is the house located in Mallorca?
Gt5.0_20 schrieb:
According to current building regulations, I would no longer be allowed to rebuild the swimming pool there, so I actually don’t want to give it up...
Why would you want to have a pool again at a multi-family rental property, which is an investment, for whatever reason?
Gt5.0_20 schrieb:
Terrible thoughts (swimming pool replaced by parking lot)
I would be more concerned about the fact that many strangers will be living in my parents’ house. Selling a single-family home can be emotionally difficult, but often you hand it over with good feelings and/or can find closure.
Converting a single-family house into a six-family building and renting it out means, as can be clearly seen here, a serious strain on the property and a cause of conflict with the neighbors.
Gt5.0_20 schrieb:
Unfortunately, the neighbors are not very open to changes.
That does not surprise me.
However, keeping the pool is rather secondary in this case and the pool itself is dispensable. Or is the house located in Mallorca?
Gt5.0_20 schrieb:
Unfortunately, neighbors are not very open to changes.I can completely understand the neighbors’ reaction when something like what is shown on the plan happens.Similar topics