ᐅ Planning a single-family house with 210 sqm of living space, without a basement
Created on: 10 Apr 2021 22:40
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Maxwell8
Hello,
we have made some initial fundamental decisions, drafted a basic plan, and are seeking constructive feedback.
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 800 sqm (8,611 sq ft)
Single-story ground level, building area 180 sqm (1,938 sq ft), 18x13 m (59x43 ft) building field, 25° roof pitch, gable roof
Client Requirements
Style: modern, 2 full floors with open roof concept, no basement, 2 bay windows that become roof terraces above, high ceiling heights (at least 2.70 m (8 ft 10 in) on the lower floor, open upstairs with up to 6 m (20 ft) wall height, 9 m (30 ft) ridge height possible), total living area approx. 210 sqm (2,260 sq ft).
Planned for 4 people
Office: rarely used for home office
No overnight guests per year
Open kitchen with cooking island
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace
Double prefabricated garage located away from the house with a small adjoining storage room, garden shed for storage
House Design
Planner: mix of model home + do-it-yourself + planner input
What do you especially like? East and west roof terraces (sunset views), large open dining/living/kitchen area, orientation according to cardinal directions, fireplace in the room, view of the staircase as a highlight, south side with external blinds, 3 doors (2 sliding, 1 standard) to the south terrace, separate parents’ area with sauna, niche in the hallway for coat storage
What don’t you like?
Children's rooms possibly too small at 12-13 sqm (130-140 sq ft). However, planning includes potentially adding a gallery in 10 years once the kids are old enough, which could create additional space. The gallery could then be used as a play or sleeping area. Considering possibly extending the house by 1 m (3 ft) and reducing the size of the bay windows; this would provide more room for the children if necessary. Alternatively, the upstairs hallway could be reduced? Personally, 10 sqm (108 sq ft) was more than enough space for me back then.
Wall thicknesses were considered in the square meter calculations (only the staircase has not yet been deducted/calculated out).
Cost estimate and personal budget excluding landscaping, plot, and additional expenses: €600,000–650,000 (approximately 600-650 thousand euros). An additional approximate €100,000 is budgeted for extra costs, furniture, and landscaping.
we have made some initial fundamental decisions, drafted a basic plan, and are seeking constructive feedback.
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 800 sqm (8,611 sq ft)
Single-story ground level, building area 180 sqm (1,938 sq ft), 18x13 m (59x43 ft) building field, 25° roof pitch, gable roof
Client Requirements
Style: modern, 2 full floors with open roof concept, no basement, 2 bay windows that become roof terraces above, high ceiling heights (at least 2.70 m (8 ft 10 in) on the lower floor, open upstairs with up to 6 m (20 ft) wall height, 9 m (30 ft) ridge height possible), total living area approx. 210 sqm (2,260 sq ft).
Planned for 4 people
Office: rarely used for home office
No overnight guests per year
Open kitchen with cooking island
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace
Double prefabricated garage located away from the house with a small adjoining storage room, garden shed for storage
House Design
Planner: mix of model home + do-it-yourself + planner input
What do you especially like? East and west roof terraces (sunset views), large open dining/living/kitchen area, orientation according to cardinal directions, fireplace in the room, view of the staircase as a highlight, south side with external blinds, 3 doors (2 sliding, 1 standard) to the south terrace, separate parents’ area with sauna, niche in the hallway for coat storage
What don’t you like?
Children's rooms possibly too small at 12-13 sqm (130-140 sq ft). However, planning includes potentially adding a gallery in 10 years once the kids are old enough, which could create additional space. The gallery could then be used as a play or sleeping area. Considering possibly extending the house by 1 m (3 ft) and reducing the size of the bay windows; this would provide more room for the children if necessary. Alternatively, the upstairs hallway could be reduced? Personally, 10 sqm (108 sq ft) was more than enough space for me back then.
Wall thicknesses were considered in the square meter calculations (only the staircase has not yet been deducted/calculated out).
Cost estimate and personal budget excluding landscaping, plot, and additional expenses: €600,000–650,000 (approximately 600-650 thousand euros). An additional approximate €100,000 is budgeted for extra costs, furniture, and landscaping.
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Myrna_Loy11 Apr 2021 00:11ypg schrieb:
Who starts by putting the saddle on the horse from the back? 😉
Yes, that pipe should be rerouted together with the other utility runs. But the design will have to evolve anyway.That caught my eye, since I have been planning the bathrooms and soil pipe rooms for the past two weeks. 😀M
Myrna_Loy11 Apr 2021 00:176 m (20 ft) wall height in a 3 m (10 ft) wide hallway??? And the chimney right in the middle, unobstructed? Unfortunately, very little fits together here.
Thanks for the comments, we will take them to heart and discuss them with an architect. The children's rooms will be slightly larger, and the utility room a bit bigger. We will find a solution for that.
The west-facing balcony can also be accessed from the office. We don’t see that as a problem.
Having the staircase accessible only through the living room also has its advantages. You know who comes and goes and when. :P We also saw it more as a visual highlight.
We are planning to install an air-to-water heat pump. Does the system really require so much space that it could become too tight for the washer and dryer?
The fireplace is planned as a decorative element (ethanol or similar), so no chimney is needed.
The 6m (20 feet) ceiling height is of course the total. We plan 2.6–2.8m (8.5–9.2 feet) ceiling height downstairs, then the ceiling, and upstairs 2.6m (8.5 feet) up to the slope, reaching 4.0–4.5m (13–15 feet) at the ridge. It is still undecided whether there will be an attic after all. Visually, we have seen several open designs (of course partly with open and partly lowered ceilings, like for example in the bathroom) that we quite liked.
The west-facing balcony can also be accessed from the office. We don’t see that as a problem.
Having the staircase accessible only through the living room also has its advantages. You know who comes and goes and when. :P We also saw it more as a visual highlight.
We are planning to install an air-to-water heat pump. Does the system really require so much space that it could become too tight for the washer and dryer?
The fireplace is planned as a decorative element (ethanol or similar), so no chimney is needed.
The 6m (20 feet) ceiling height is of course the total. We plan 2.6–2.8m (8.5–9.2 feet) ceiling height downstairs, then the ceiling, and upstairs 2.6m (8.5 feet) up to the slope, reaching 4.0–4.5m (13–15 feet) at the ridge. It is still undecided whether there will be an attic after all. Visually, we have seen several open designs (of course partly with open and partly lowered ceilings, like for example in the bathroom) that we quite liked.
askforafriend11 Apr 2021 00:58So much living space and pure waste
Maxwell8 schrieb:
What don’t you like? For me, it’s the distraction instead of continuing the thread https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-mit-elw-anregungen-fuer-neulinge.38307/ there :-(
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Let a professional handle it.
Bowling in the open-plan living area
Slalom in the building services
Where should the freezer go?
Children’s room smaller than the hallway
Children’s area smaller than the parents’ area
The proportions are off. Sometimes space is wasted, and then it’s lacking where it’s needed.
Who uses balconies when there is a garden downstairs with direct access to cold drinks and coffee?
Bowling in the open-plan living area
Slalom in the building services
Where should the freezer go?
Children’s room smaller than the hallway
Children’s area smaller than the parents’ area
The proportions are off. Sometimes space is wasted, and then it’s lacking where it’s needed.
Who uses balconies when there is a garden downstairs with direct access to cold drinks and coffee?
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