Hi, we recently bought a plot of land in a new development area in Hesse, and our construction is starting soon.
Regarding our rainwater infiltration system, I asked our future neighbor to send me a house plan (to check the distance to the basement).
However, I noticed that it was actually a planting plan, which needs to be submitted to the authorities together with the building permit / planning permission application.
On it, I saw that he plans to plant a Norway maple quite close to our property line (about 3-4m (10-13 feet) away)!
These trees can already reach 4m (13 feet) in height after 10 years and up to 16m (52 feet) after 20 years, which is almost twice as tall as our houses!
Final height can be up to 35m (115 feet).
Who would want such a huge tree in their own garden?
So far, I haven’t found much information online except that you often have to accept a lot.
According to the building regulations / neighborhood law in Hesse, “very fast-growing avenue and park trees” must maintain a 4m (13 feet) distance from the boundary, and “fast-growing avenue and park trees” only 2m (6.5 feet).
Where does the Norway maple fall in this classification?
Is there anything I can do in advance? For example, can I apply to prevent him from planting it?
I know from my in-laws, who once owned a house and land, that you can’t just do anything you want on your own property. If the neighbor doesn’t agree, it’s not allowed.
I really don’t want such a tree because it would probably block sunlight from my entire garden.
Can I oppose this?
He also wants to plant a Japanese maple between our houses. But there are shrubs that tend to grow more in width than height. I could accept something like that.
I really hope there is a solution.
I don’t want a never-ending neighborhood dispute!
Regarding our rainwater infiltration system, I asked our future neighbor to send me a house plan (to check the distance to the basement).
However, I noticed that it was actually a planting plan, which needs to be submitted to the authorities together with the building permit / planning permission application.
On it, I saw that he plans to plant a Norway maple quite close to our property line (about 3-4m (10-13 feet) away)!
These trees can already reach 4m (13 feet) in height after 10 years and up to 16m (52 feet) after 20 years, which is almost twice as tall as our houses!
Final height can be up to 35m (115 feet).
Who would want such a huge tree in their own garden?
So far, I haven’t found much information online except that you often have to accept a lot.
According to the building regulations / neighborhood law in Hesse, “very fast-growing avenue and park trees” must maintain a 4m (13 feet) distance from the boundary, and “fast-growing avenue and park trees” only 2m (6.5 feet).
Where does the Norway maple fall in this classification?
Is there anything I can do in advance? For example, can I apply to prevent him from planting it?
I know from my in-laws, who once owned a house and land, that you can’t just do anything you want on your own property. If the neighbor doesn’t agree, it’s not allowed.
I really don’t want such a tree because it would probably block sunlight from my entire garden.
Can I oppose this?
He also wants to plant a Japanese maple between our houses. But there are shrubs that tend to grow more in width than height. I could accept something like that.
I really hope there is a solution.
I don’t want a never-ending neighborhood dispute!
K
Knallkörper20 May 2017 17:52ypg schrieb:
Brick-faced facades are strictly separated from modern style, and modern style is separated from Bauhaus style.How is this meant to be understood in writing? Are three house types (brick, modern, Bauhaus) described or defined in the development plan or zoning regulations? How exactly do they document this? In our housing area, the high-quality houses happen to be white, while the cheaper ones often lean toward yellow or light green. The jewel among the houses, however, is brick-faced.
Alex85 schrieb:
One could also say that everything has its time and fashion. In 10 years, everyone will probably be shocked at how foolish it was to paint the wood (which has now turned gray to brown anyway) and, as a "contrast" to the also dark gray windows and roof tiles, to add gray color accents through painting. A total bunker look. (My flat roof cube is the same)Hmm, the most attractive houses in the region for me are from the 1960s, painted white (although with brick cladding and paint) and have flat roofs: (row) bungalows were very popular back then and would probably still be built if the land wasn’t so expensive.
Knallkörper schrieb:
How should this be understood in writing? Does the development plan describe or define three house types (brick, modern, Bauhaus)?There is a) a development plan.
b) The design framework was determined by the monastery administration (leasehold properties). It is divided into three styles: traditional, modern, and Bauhaus.
The new residential area is accordingly divided: in the south, along a street, there are traditional bungalows (red brick, with up to one-third of other facade details permitted); in the center is the modern style as single-story houses with all roof pitches, height up to 7.80 meters (25.6 ft), at least two-thirds of the facade must be white plaster, the rest may have other details; in the north, there are 1- to 2-story Bauhaus-style houses, also two-thirds white, with the rest of the facade allowed to have other details.
According to the development plan, single-story buildings are generally permitted. For the Bauhaus houses, the single-story requirement has been relaxed.
Regarding other design aspects: over the years, regulations have become increasingly flexible.
K
Knallkörper20 May 2017 19:00Alex85 schrieb:
My plastic facade will be eaten up by woodpeckers in 20 years anyway, so I don’t really need to worry about leaky roofs—the building will be ready for demolition by then.To be honest, there is probably more truth in that than you might think. Professionally, I work almost exclusively with industrial buildings that have flat roofs. Leaks are more the rule than the exception after about 10 years. In our old house, built in 1997, we had to pay an extra premium on the building insurance from 2012 onward because of the flat roof. In fact, we had three water damage incidents caused by rainwater within five years because the plastic waterproofing membrane no longer functioned properly. This membrane was from 2007.
Alex85 schrieb:
I completely agree with you. To quote Karsten, just as there are different kinds of people, there are also different types of residential areas for every taste. That's not entirely true. While we also have different residential areas, only the place we are moving to was affordable.
In all other areas, the land would cost at least 450–500€ per square meter (approximately 42–46 USD per square foot).
305er schrieb:
That’s not entirely true. We do have different building zones here, but only in the area we're moving to was it affordable.
Everywhere else would have land prices of AT LEAST 450-500€ per square meter (43-46 USD per square foot).Yes, it applies to you as well – it’s just a matter of budget.
Regards, Yvonne
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