ᐅ Keyword/search term needed for an appropriate floor plan search

Created on: 1 Feb 2021 13:14
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HausAmWaldrand
Hello everyone!
I’m looking for your input… sometimes, as the saying goes, you can’t see the forest for the trees – at least that’s how it feels to me. 😎

I’m searching for floor plans similar to my little forest house. It’s a small (settlement) house built in the early 1960s. My “problem” is that the staircase is located in the outer corner of the house, meaning it is against not just one, but two exterior walls. Nowadays, most floor plans tend to have staircases more towards the interior of the house. Is there a specific term for this type of staircase, or does anyone have an idea of what keyword I could use to search for suitable floor plans? My small forest house is just 80m2 (860 sq ft) in size, and although it will probably be some time before I renovate, I want to start gathering ideas on how to “redesign” it later without losing its charm. 😉

Grundriss eines Gebäudes mit mehreren Zimmern, Türen und Fenstern, blaue Wände.
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haydee
3 Feb 2021 09:59
Pinterest might help you.
Consider what you need. Plan your space as if it were a completely new build.
When you are back in the house, walk through it with an open eye. The bathroom is too small – make a note to try and enlarge the bathroom.
Some friends of mine added a conservatory (sunroom) to the small living/dining room. Even after removing the wall, it was still too small. Changing the staircase is quite difficult, so the old staircase was only refurbished.
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icandoit
3 Feb 2021 10:50
Those are ideal dimensions. The perfect house used to be 5 × 5 meters (16 × 16 feet).

On the ground floor: open-plan living area / kitchen + restroom + storage room.

On the upper floor: whatever you might need. Bedroom, nursery, bathroom?

How many people are supposed to move in? Is it a pitched roof with a 45-degree angle and knee wall?

Is there a basement?
HausAmWaldrand3 Feb 2021 16:19
haydee schrieb:

Pinterest might help you.
Think about what you need. Plan your space as if it were a completely new build.
When you are back in the house, walk through with open eyes. The bathroom is too small – note to yourself to try to enlarge the bathroom.

Pinterest can be both a blessing and a curse. But at least it gives you a rough idea to start with. I’m not under any illusions – as soon as you really start asking me questions, I’ll realize I have no idea 😉 But that’s exactly why I joined this forum. Unfortunately, I can only get into the house once a year – and thanks to COVID, not even once last year...
icandoit schrieb:

Those are truly minimal dimensions. The ideal house used to be 5 x 5 m (16 x 16 ft).

On the ground floor, open plan / kitchen + WC + storage room

On the upper floor, whatever you might need. Bedroom, children’s room, bathroom?

How many people are going to live there? Is it a pitched roof with 45° (45°) pitch and knee wall?

Is there a basement?

Well, it seems it can always be smaller – and people were still grateful for it!
The bathroom with a bathtub is on the ground floor – upstairs, due to the sloped ceilings, there is only a WC.
There will be four of us – parents and two children. According to the plans, it is a pitched roof with a 35° (35°) roof pitch and a knee wall 87 cm (34 inches) high. Fortunately, there is a basement.

I will upload all the plans etc. when I get the chance – I promise. Including the questionnaire, but I don’t just want to type that out quickly; I want to really think about what I TRULY want and what I DON’T. I think this is underestimated more than people realize.
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haydee
3 Feb 2021 16:33
I think there will be an extension anyway, and I would consider installing a bathroom on the upper floor. That is standard nowadays.
11ant3 Feb 2021 19:40
HausAmWaldrand schrieb:

Well, apparently smaller is always possible – and people were still grateful for it!
The bathroom with bathtub is on the ground floor – upstairs, due to the sloped ceiling, there is only a toilet.

Eighty years ago, my grandfather wanted to build a two-family house with his school friend – with a hipped roof – something close to what is called a "city villa" today, but with a basement in the foundation. It was modern for the time, with toilets in the bathrooms. The exterior dimensions were 8.5 x 8.5 meters (28 x 28 feet). They felt like royalty back then. Then the war came, both returned thankfully unharmed, and remained renters (though they were able to give their own children private rooms).
HausAmWaldrand schrieb:

There would be four of us – parents and two children. According to the plans, it’s a gable roof with a 35-degree pitch – knee wall height is 87 cm (34 inches). Luckily, there is a basement.

Can anyone, even a layperson, tell from the outside if it really turned out to be a gable roof as planned? In the 1960s, really an 87 cm (34 inches) knee wall? Not everyone had that back then :-)
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HausAmWaldrand3 Feb 2021 20:10
11ant schrieb:

Eighty years ago, my grandfather wanted to build a two-family house with a hipped roof alongside his school friend – almost what people today would call a "city villa," but with a basement in the foundation. It was modern for its time, with toilets in the bathrooms. The external dimensions were 8.5 x 8.5 meters (28 x 28 feet). They must have felt like kings. Then the war came; both thankfully returned unharmed and remained tenants (although they were able to give their children their own rooms).

They appreciated even the little they had… something we should not forget nowadays.
My grandfather dug out the excavation for this 8 x 7.5 meters (26 x 25 feet) foundation himself by hand back then – all clay soil! I once had the chance to try it myself… I don’t think I managed even 1 m² (10.8 sq ft) 😎
11ant schrieb:

Can’t a layperson tell from the outside if it actually ended up with a gable roof? – In the 1960s, really 87 cm (34 inches) knee wall? Not everyone had that 🙂

It’s definitely a gable roof. The "according to plan" probably referred to the roof pitch and the knee wall height. 🙂 I vaguely remember checking that a few years ago. The little house got a special building permit/planning permission at the time because it stands among weekend or holiday homes. It was already quite unusual, so the exact height of the knee wall probably didn’t matter anymore…