ᐅ Is it practical to have a utility room located beneath the house?
Created on: 28 Jan 2020 11:01
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Pinkiponk
Please don’t be upset, this question isn’t of practical importance; I’m just curious and hope this forum allows room for such questions.
I’ve heard in passing and have been thinking about it that "in the USA," houses often have a small crawl space (not a basement) beneath them where flexible pipes for water, sewage, etc., are located. If you want to change the layout of the rooms above, it’s apparently very easy because the pipes under the house are freely accessible and can be routed into any room as needed. It seems a bit more complicated here in Germany. Do you know why that is or what disadvantages this American-style construction might have? I saw this on the TV channel HGTV, which features many home renovations.
I’ve heard in passing and have been thinking about it that "in the USA," houses often have a small crawl space (not a basement) beneath them where flexible pipes for water, sewage, etc., are located. If you want to change the layout of the rooms above, it’s apparently very easy because the pipes under the house are freely accessible and can be routed into any room as needed. It seems a bit more complicated here in Germany. Do you know why that is or what disadvantages this American-style construction might have? I saw this on the TV channel HGTV, which features many home renovations.
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Pinkiponk30 Jan 2020 09:57hampshire schrieb:
The Energy Saving Ordinance is a perfect example of how environmental policies and industrial lobbying can coexist. Do you have the time and interest to explain that? I find it intriguing.
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hampshire30 Jan 2020 11:32Energy saving is a key pillar for climate protection. The Energy Saving Ordinance has been a success in this regard. Energy savings in construction are primarily achieved through insulation and sealing. Alternative methods are disadvantaged. Renovation and new construction programs favor the use of ETICS (External Thermal Insulation Composite Systems). Companies specializing in insulation and sealing have sprung up rapidly, creating a gold rush atmosphere for years. Certifications are also booming. Products receive labels and become more expensive – it’s not just labor costs that have significantly increased in recent years. This closely resembles a lobby-driven economic stimulus program.
The 10,000 Houses Program was even more about lobbying.
There was a technology bonus and an energy efficiency bonus.
However, the energy efficiency bonus was only granted if you had applied for and received approval for the technology bonus. If you owned a house that met the energy efficiency bonus criteria but did not include subsidized technology, you received nothing.
There was a technology bonus and an energy efficiency bonus.
However, the energy efficiency bonus was only granted if you had applied for and received approval for the technology bonus. If you owned a house that met the energy efficiency bonus criteria but did not include subsidized technology, you received nothing.
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Pinkiponk30 Jan 2020 11:40hampshire schrieb:
Energy saving is a fundamental pillar for climate protection. In this regard, the energy saving regulation is a success. Energy saving in construction should be achieved through insulation and sealing. But does this come at the expense of noise and sound insulation? I have only heard that thermal insulation in windows is accompanied by reduced soundproofing. Also, there are neighborhood conflicts concerning the noise from heat pumps. (Of course, for significant extra costs, you can usually get the best of both worlds.) To put it simply, less heating but more noise would be a bad trade-off in my opinion. However, I cannot make a final assessment due to my lack of expertise.
You are already discussing the details. I am thinking more fundamentally. The principle of freedom is: I decide whether to install photovoltaic panels or not. Whether to plant olives, thuja, or beech trees. Whether to drive an SUV or a small car, a Tesla or an Audi, to fly or take the train. Or the bus. The government may encourage one option, through grants or other incentives, but it should neither punish nor forbid the alternatives. Why not? Because it is not the government's role to educate! Freedom takes priority over order…..K.
hampshire schrieb:
The Energy Saving Ordinance is a perfect example of how environmental policy and industrial lobbying coexist.Mind you: environmental policy – not environment.No matter how many recycling park benches are installed, more yogurt cups are thrown away. So the petrochemical residual waste has to be downcycled, ideally combined in a win-win way with another problem: the fact that Ivan raped our grandmothers has become too faint a hate image to use against Putin. Therefore, fear is needed that he could strangle us with gas prices – and suddenly the average German understands why they have to wrap their house completely with foam made of yogurt cups. In the past, the village idiots brought light in with bags, today they keep the heat inside with insulation boards. Those village idiots are quite amusing creatures; even the stone louse can’t compete with them. If this mess has to be removed again later and Miss Nahles (or whoever is the next firebrand chancellor) fears the resentment of the grandchildren of the Gorleben protesters, the waste will simply be exported – Manila will surely find space for it. The weather, as Ulrich Wickert would have said.
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