ᐅ Floor plan design, two full stories without a basement, 170–180 square meters

Created on: 14 Feb 2022 19:20
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Jackil26
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Jackil26
14 Feb 2022 19:20
Hello everyone, we are planning to build a city villa with two full floors and would like to share our current design.
At the moment, the design is still somewhat large, so we plan to reduce its size slightly.
Let's discuss!

Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 910 sqm (9,782 sq ft)
Slope: Yes
Additional requirements: Construction according to §34 Building Code. Two full floors and a hip roof prevail directly in the neighborhood.

Homeowners' Requirements
Style, Roof type, Building type: Modern, tent or hip roof, city villa
Basement, Floors: No basement, 2 full floors
Number of people, Age: 2 adults (planning for 2 children), 30
Space needed per floor: 87 sqm (936 sq ft) each for ground and upper floors
Office: Family use or home office? Yes, home office 2 days per week each.
Overnight guests annually: Rarely
Open or closed architecture: Open
Conservative or modern construction: Modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Open kitchen with island; overall open living and dining area
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: Yes, but small.
Music/stereo wall: No.
Balcony, roof terrace: No.
Garage, carport: Double garage with utility room.
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: No.
Other wishes/special features/daily routine:
Direct access from garage to kitchen through pantry.
Garage adjoining neighbor’s boundary is agreed upon.

House Design
Who designed it:
- Architect
What do you particularly like?
Open living and dining area, long “kitchen front,” utility room upstairs, open vertical space, porch.
What do you dislike? Why?
The size should generally be reduced from currently 183 sqm (1,970 sq ft) to about 175 sqm (1,884 sq ft).
We’re not completely satisfied with the upper floor yet; the bathroom is comparatively small considering the house size, while the children’s rooms are quite large.
We are also considering moving the master bedroom and bathroom closer together.
Once we have time, we will upload a revised idea.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: pending; we are budgeting around 550,000 EUR without incidental construction costs and garage.
Personal budget limit for the house, including equipment: 675,000 EUR.
Preferred heating system: ground-source heat pump.

If you had to give up, which features/extensions
-can you do without: open vertical space, smaller office downstairs.
-can you not do without: office downstairs, utility room upstairs, guest bathroom on ground floor with shower, pantry.

Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Design by architect based on our rough specifications (room program and approximate sizes). The architect had freedom in form and layout.
Which wishes were implemented by the architect?
Basically all, as this is still the first rough draft.
Topics like window and door placement have not yet been addressed.

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Where do you think usable living space can still be sensibly saved?
Which rooms are too narrow or awkward? Would you rearrange the upper floor?

Grundriss eines Hauses: Wohnzimmer/Essbereich, Küche, Gästezimmer, Büro, Medienraum, Garage, Terrasse.


Grundriss eines Obergeschosses: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Flur, Kind 1, Kind 2, HWR, DU
11ant14 Feb 2022 23:22
Jackil26 schrieb:

At the moment, the design is still a bit too large and will be scaled down somewhat. [...] The design comes from the architect based on our rough specifications (room layout and approximate sizes). He was free regarding the form and detailing.
And now you found out unexpectedly that your lottery ticket was unsuccessful?
Jackil26 schrieb:

This is still the very first draft.
Then it’s not an architect, since what is shown here obviously isn’t a preliminary design but something more advanced already.
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PhiIipp14 Feb 2022 23:33
I don’t think the floor plan is bad at all. However, I believe some of the floor space can be saved, as it seems to have been planned rather generously.
At first glance, the large unused areas in the living/dining space stand out. Unfortunately, these cannot be removed easily without significant adjustments.
The shower bathroom could be a bit narrower without feeling too tight.

Slightly shortening the entrance vestibule saves a little space.

And the straight staircase naturally takes up space as well...

A general note:
I liked the idea of the passage from the garage to the pantry to the kitchen, until I saw the plan. To me, it seems a bit too playful. If this is not intended as a secret passage for the future children to have fun with, I would design it differently.

The situation in the office seems awkwardly arranged. Overall, a few otherwise unnecessary square meters would be better used here. The space is more valuable in this room.


2D-Hausgrundriss eines Einfamilienhauses mit Wohnzimmer, Küche, Treppen und Garage.
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SoL
15 Feb 2022 00:05
The entrance between the garage and pantry is unnecessary and impractical. I don’t want to walk through the pantry with dirty boots.

Do you have an attic? I couldn’t find the attic hatch. If not, where do you store your items?

Personally, I find the entrance area lacks enough space for a seating spot with a child. Putting on muddy overalls, snow suits, etc., will have to happen on the floor.

With the separate utility room (HAR), unfortunately, you lose the option of having a mudroom area for dirty, muddy children. That’s a shame!

Overall, the design is quite complex with many recesses and corners, so if you want to save on costs, there is plenty of potential there—see also the post above mine.

Best regards
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Jackil26
15 Feb 2022 06:19
11ant schrieb:

And now you’ve unexpectedly found out that your lottery ticket was unsuccessful?

We also didn’t play the lottery before starting the planning.

Then it’s not an architect, because apparently what is shown here is not just a preliminary draft but something more advanced.


As mentioned, this is an architect and the first draft in this form. Of course, there were also some rough sketches beforehand.

Office:
It might be possible to raise the door height toward the pantry and change the door swing. That way, the cabinet would be “hidden” behind the door.

Attic:
There is one.

Dressing room:
The idea was to slightly enlarge the dressing niche and create a small seating area. That should fit well with a width of about 1.6–1.8 meters (5.2–5.9 feet).

Living area:
We’ll have to look into how to reduce the green areas a bit. Thanks already for the suggestion.

Pantry:
The room is actually intended as a pantry rather than a mudroom. For the latter, the office would probably need to be reduced in size, which is only a partial solution. Of course, part of the kitchen area could also be used for that.

Thanks already for the ideas.
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kbt09
15 Feb 2022 07:12
How is the slope shaped? North top left on the plan? A detailed site plan would be interesting. Typical evening sun from the SOUTHWEST doesn’t seem very likely.

In my opinion, the airspace here is really unnecessary, mostly just a sound transmission channel from the ground floor to the upper floor. The access to the garage... I usually find these accesses unnecessary anyway. The hidden tall cabinet wall access is rather costly and takes up valuable tall cabinet space in the kitchen. Access to the pantry could also be from the hallway or arranged differently with the kitchen layout.

For access to the living area, I would either plan a sliding door or have the door swing into the hallway. An open door otherwise awkwardly sticks out into the room.

I also see the bay windows as a potential cost-saving measure.

Otherwise, I like the plan quite a bit; I also notice the many free areas that @SoL pointed out.