Hello everyone,
We are currently looking for an architect to support us with our planning.
Our project: a terraced mid-terrace house measuring 6 m x 12.5 m (20 ft x 41 ft), located in a new development area in Hesse near Frankfurt, subject to local zoning regulations.
We would like to complete all preliminary planning, including everything required for a building permit / planning permission application, so we are ready to submit as soon as the area is developed and we can file the application.
We have received offers ranging from €6,000 to €14,000.
Here is one offer for which we would like to hear your opinion:
- Concept design in 3D
- Approval planning, building permit application, construction description form, building statistics form
- Calculations of gross volume, living and usable areas, plot ratio, floor space index, building costs according to DIN standards
- Site plan at 1:1000 scale with building component markings
- Design drawings at 1:100 scale including floor plans, elevations, and sections
- Landscape plan and outdoor facilities plan at 1:200 or 1:500 scale
- Drainage plan at 1:200 or 1:500 scale
All documents will be provided in printed form according to the standards as well as in PDF format.
Price: €2,800 net
Note: Additional technical reports for sound insulation, noise protection, and fire safety are not included in the price and will be invoiced separately.
The price sounds very reasonable.
Is there anything specific we should pay attention to that might be missing?
Thank you in advance 🙂
We are currently looking for an architect to support us with our planning.
Our project: a terraced mid-terrace house measuring 6 m x 12.5 m (20 ft x 41 ft), located in a new development area in Hesse near Frankfurt, subject to local zoning regulations.
We would like to complete all preliminary planning, including everything required for a building permit / planning permission application, so we are ready to submit as soon as the area is developed and we can file the application.
We have received offers ranging from €6,000 to €14,000.
Here is one offer for which we would like to hear your opinion:
- Concept design in 3D
- Approval planning, building permit application, construction description form, building statistics form
- Calculations of gross volume, living and usable areas, plot ratio, floor space index, building costs according to DIN standards
- Site plan at 1:1000 scale with building component markings
- Design drawings at 1:100 scale including floor plans, elevations, and sections
- Landscape plan and outdoor facilities plan at 1:200 or 1:500 scale
- Drainage plan at 1:200 or 1:500 scale
All documents will be provided in printed form according to the standards as well as in PDF format.
Price: €2,800 net
Note: Additional technical reports for sound insulation, noise protection, and fire safety are not included in the price and will be invoiced separately.
The price sounds very reasonable.
Is there anything specific we should pay attention to that might be missing?
Thank you in advance 🙂
NeScha12 schrieb:
We would like to have everything, including the building permit / planning permission application, handled by the architect and then build with a construction company.
However, we are not sure if something important might be missing in the offer or if there are special points to consider.Well, even if you want to work with a construction company – who will take care of the site supervision? The contractor, who is always looking out for your best interest?
NeScha12 schrieb:
It might be helpful to know that he does this as a side business as a small business owner.I have never heard this from freelancers before (?)NeScha12 schrieb:
All documents are provided in paper form according to the standards as well as in PDF format.Providing an additional format suitable for further digital processing could be helpful (if he works with CAD and does not generate the drawings from semi-professional house planning software).NeScha12 schrieb:
- Submission planning M=1/100 floor plans, elevations, and sectionsYou are only allowed to build according to these plans but you cannot start construction yet!NeScha12 schrieb:
We would like to have everything done by the architect including the building permit application, and then build with a construction company.SoL schrieb:
Otherwise: I recommend commissioning all phases of service for a new build (in stages). The architect also shows his strengths during tenders and construction supervision.I always recommend the following (see also, unfortunately not linkable here but searchable with the phrase in quotes: "A house building roadmap for you too: the HOAI phase model!"):1. "Module A": service phases 1 and 2, with the option to extend afterwards if the "chemistry" with the architect is right
2. (very important!): a pause, which I call "dough resting time"
3. "Module B": service phases 3 to 5! (because the detailed plans should come from the designer who created the concept)
4. (optional) from "Module C" (service phases 6 to 8) at least the tendering — but ideally preliminary planning, planning, tendering, and construction supervision come from the same source!
I would never hire an architect who only offers service phases 1 to 4: these are usually theorists with two major weaknesses, namely construction supervision and cost estimation.
NeScha12 schrieb:
Our project: mid-terrace house 6m x 12.5m (20ft x 41ft),The real problem lies in this seemingly innocuous introduction: planning a mid-terrace house without coordination with the two neighbors is a big mistake, and by building deeper than at least one of the neighbors, it can easily turn into a huge disaster: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/reihenendhaus-mit-gue-in-eigenregie-bauen.31198/ :-(https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
SoL schrieb:
Well, even if you want to work with a construction company – who will take care of the site supervision? The contractor, who only looks out for your best interests?Here, we had the idea that our neighbor could help monitor our construction project in parallel.
He will also be building once the area is developed and does a lot of the work himself (he comes from the industry – construction manager).
However, nothing is finalized yet as we are still in the preliminary planning phase.
NeScha12 schrieb:
We had the idea that our neighbor would supervise our construction work alongside us.
He will also build once the area is developed and is doing a lot of the work himself (he works in the industry as a site manager).
But nothing is set in stone yet, as we are still in the preliminary planning phase. Is this on a fee basis or just for a case of beer?
In the second case, it becomes difficult if he isn’t available due to time constraints or if there are scheduling conflicts between his house and yours.
I would never in my life hire my future neighbor. Always only someone with whom I can have a proper argument in the worst case, without damaging the neighborly relationship.
SoL schrieb:
On a fee basis or for a case of beer?
The second option gets tricky if he’s unavailable due to lack of time or if there are scheduling conflicts between his project and yours.
I would never hire my future neighbor. Only someone I can have a serious argument with if needed, without damaging the neighborly relationship. Yes, you’re right about that.
But there are surely other alternatives here as well.
NeScha12 schrieb:
Here we had the idea that our neighbor would help monitor our construction project in parallel. What you plan to do doesn’t have to be done ;-)
If you already know at least one of the neighbors: don’t hesitate, coordinate your plans!
NeScha12 schrieb:
But nothing is final yet since we are still in the preliminary planning stage. Without the architect, you should not have more than identified your needs. Don’t go there with “half-finished” plans!
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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