Hello everyone,
after reading here for a while, I would now like to ask for advice.
We are planning to build a bungalow. At the moment, we keep going in circles with the floor plan.
I will first answer the questionnaire
Development plan.....not available /restrictions
Plot size.....1000 sqm (12,000 sq ft)
Slope.....no
Floor area ratio.....0.4
Site coverage ratio
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Edge development
Number of parking spaces
Number of storeys
Roof shape
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum heights/limits
Other requirements
Client requirements
Architectural style, roof shape, building type.....Bungalow with hipped or gable roof
Basement, floors
Number of people, ages....2 adults and two children (8 and 14)
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor.....see floor plan
Office: family use or home office?.....will be a multipurpose room: guest, hobby, and office
Overnight guests per year
open or closed layout.....closed kitchen with dining area
conservative or modern construction style
open kitchen, cooking island.....cooking island
Number of dining seats.....6-10
Fireplace.....no
Music/stereo wall
Balcony, roof terrace
Garage, carport.....double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons for preferences or refusals.....storage room to replace a basement
House design
Who designed the plan:
-Builder's planner
-Architect
-Do-it-yourself....designed by ourselves
What do you especially like? Why?.....west terrace with access from the kitchen, children’s rooms with shower bathroom as one unit
What do you dislike? Why?.....kitchen may be too dark, cloakroom in entrance vestibule hard to implement, pantry without a window
Price estimate according to architect/planner:.....Builder approx. 1300 €/sqm (approx. $150/sq ft) plus painting, flooring, and landscaping costs
Personal price limit for the house including equipment:
Preferred heating technology:.....air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/finishes
-can you do without:
-can’t do without:
Why is the design the way it is? For example
Standard design from builder?
Which requests were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad?
Some key data about the plot: the south border (street side) is about 20 m (66 ft), the access road to the property must be here. The middle of the plot is about 21 m (69 ft) wide, and the northern border about 23 m (75 ft), surveying was done last week. The plot is bordered on the south and east by a wall; the other two boundaries will still be built. There is an opening in the wall on the east side leading to a lane, so we would like to create a short access path to the property and house there.
The floor plan was basically determined by the number of rooms, all of which must be included. However, I am concerned that the roof over the terrace and the narrow window will make the kitchen too dark. Otherwise, I would also like improvements in the entrance area and bathroom; I imagine a T-shaped layout rather than the current arrangement. The layout of the children’s rooms with the shower bathroom is more or less fixed, as is the distance between the parents’ area and the terrace.
Any ideas what could be changed? I keep going in circles. I have made a whole stack of sketches but keep returning to this layout. There is no development plan. We have submitted a building code pre-application; the land was previously classified as garden land, and building permission was granted under §34.
Thank you very much for reading, it got quite long.
Yvonne
after reading here for a while, I would now like to ask for advice.
We are planning to build a bungalow. At the moment, we keep going in circles with the floor plan.
I will first answer the questionnaire
Development plan.....not available /restrictions
Plot size.....1000 sqm (12,000 sq ft)
Slope.....no
Floor area ratio.....0.4
Site coverage ratio
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Edge development
Number of parking spaces
Number of storeys
Roof shape
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum heights/limits
Other requirements
Client requirements
Architectural style, roof shape, building type.....Bungalow with hipped or gable roof
Basement, floors
Number of people, ages....2 adults and two children (8 and 14)
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor.....see floor plan
Office: family use or home office?.....will be a multipurpose room: guest, hobby, and office
Overnight guests per year
open or closed layout.....closed kitchen with dining area
conservative or modern construction style
open kitchen, cooking island.....cooking island
Number of dining seats.....6-10
Fireplace.....no
Music/stereo wall
Balcony, roof terrace
Garage, carport.....double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons for preferences or refusals.....storage room to replace a basement
House design
Who designed the plan:
-Builder's planner
-Architect
-Do-it-yourself....designed by ourselves
What do you especially like? Why?.....west terrace with access from the kitchen, children’s rooms with shower bathroom as one unit
What do you dislike? Why?.....kitchen may be too dark, cloakroom in entrance vestibule hard to implement, pantry without a window
Price estimate according to architect/planner:.....Builder approx. 1300 €/sqm (approx. $150/sq ft) plus painting, flooring, and landscaping costs
Personal price limit for the house including equipment:
Preferred heating technology:.....air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/finishes
-can you do without:
-can’t do without:
Why is the design the way it is? For example
Standard design from builder?
Which requests were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad?
Some key data about the plot: the south border (street side) is about 20 m (66 ft), the access road to the property must be here. The middle of the plot is about 21 m (69 ft) wide, and the northern border about 23 m (75 ft), surveying was done last week. The plot is bordered on the south and east by a wall; the other two boundaries will still be built. There is an opening in the wall on the east side leading to a lane, so we would like to create a short access path to the property and house there.
The floor plan was basically determined by the number of rooms, all of which must be included. However, I am concerned that the roof over the terrace and the narrow window will make the kitchen too dark. Otherwise, I would also like improvements in the entrance area and bathroom; I imagine a T-shaped layout rather than the current arrangement. The layout of the children’s rooms with the shower bathroom is more or less fixed, as is the distance between the parents’ area and the terrace.
Any ideas what could be changed? I keep going in circles. I have made a whole stack of sketches but keep returning to this layout. There is no development plan. We have submitted a building code pre-application; the land was previously classified as garden land, and building permission was granted under §34.
Thank you very much for reading, it got quite long.
Yvonne
I have circled the unnecessary corners here...
yvonnebo schrieb:
I am fully aware that it is no longer a classic L-shaped bungalow.?? It is a classic L-shaped bungalow—just not with the well-thought-out orientation to make one of the corners a cozy retreat.
yvonnebo schrieb:
Which wall do you mean with the two doors?I mean the imagined wall above the corridor with the bedroom and guest room doors.
yvonnebo schrieb:
For example, I could imagine swapping the storage room, utility room, kitchen, and living room—but how???yvonnebo schrieb:
It’s not that easy to fit all the rooms into the space; some rooms still feel too small. However, I didn’t want too much unnecessary circulation area either. Everything needs to be maintained.The rooms are not too small. They have reasonable sizes!
I find that thinking about good planning only AFTER submitting the building permit / planning permission is too late.
You are going in circles—this discussion has already happened, and honestly, I’m missing your arguments on why things are the way they are now. Instead, what we hear now is:
yvonnebo schrieb:
I’ve now reached the point where nothing is working anymore. The planner apparently doesn’t understand me, so plans go back and forth several times before any changes are made.yvonnebo schrieb:
I’ll try to enjoy my Sunday and clear my head of these stuck thoughts.The stuck thinking is quite visible here, in your original plan:
Although the guest room has been moved to a different spot, the living room remains a trapped space.
You were already given some good suggestions, back in April! Planner or not. Kerstin had good ideas... and every household needs to create spaces to serve as storage areas (or in your case, commercial spaces). Some keep these inside the house, others near the garage or in a connecting annex. Either way. Being stuck means not being able to detach from the current orientation.
If it weren’t so sad, one could almost find it amusing, but you are investing several hundred thousand euros into the property. Once construction starts, there is no turning back.
So please be critical with yourselves and take the dysfunctional kitchen layout as a reason to reconsider fundamental changes.
kbt09 schrieb:
So, and now roughly sketched into the site plan. Garage with an adjacent room indicated with external dimensions of 7 x 9 m (23 x 30 ft).I prefer your approaches from ##21,22 from April... and there would still be space to include the commercial area somewhere.
Basically, I like the Swedish layout: a central open living area, one wing for parents and guests, the other wing for children and commercial use. It comes with a 5 sqm (54 sq ft) entrance hall and a small corridor for each wing.
@ypg .. basically the same for me, basically the same. But I wanted to keep the requirements like "children’s room, children’s bathroom, and guest room together and possibly separable later" here.
And, probably a very important requirement, the location of the utility room because that’s where all the service connections come in. I have roughly kept that position. And I simply don’t know enough about how or where it could be moved more conveniently.
And, probably a very important requirement, the location of the utility room because that’s where all the service connections come in. I have roughly kept that position. And I simply don’t know enough about how or where it could be moved more conveniently.
kbt09 schrieb:
And, probably a very important specification, the location of the utility room, because that’s where all the service connections come in. I have roughly kept the position.What specifications were there, Kerstin? I must have missed that somewhere or overlooked it.