ᐅ Bathroom: Poorly executed transition detail between tiles and door
Created on: 16 Oct 2018 13:42
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Sophia1979
Hello dear home building experts,
I need some advice from you:
Fact: In our new build, the bathroom tiles were installed all the way up to the door opening, so the door frame was set directly on top of the tiles. Unfortunately, this issue with the overall bathroom design by the architect was only noticed very late.
Problem: Above the tiled area, the appearance is quite unsightly because there is a gap all around (gap between the door and the wall). The builder now wants to simply cover this with trim. Their reasoning: this is not considered a defect, and we have no right to request a correction (>>> removing the tiles, reinstalling them properly, and fitting the door frame correctly alongside).
Question: Is the builder right? What would you do – request a correction or just accept the trim solution?
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Looking forward to your answers.
Best regards from Sophia
I need some advice from you:
Fact: In our new build, the bathroom tiles were installed all the way up to the door opening, so the door frame was set directly on top of the tiles. Unfortunately, this issue with the overall bathroom design by the architect was only noticed very late.
Problem: Above the tiled area, the appearance is quite unsightly because there is a gap all around (gap between the door and the wall). The builder now wants to simply cover this with trim. Their reasoning: this is not considered a defect, and we have no right to request a correction (>>> removing the tiles, reinstalling them properly, and fitting the door frame correctly alongside).
Question: Is the builder right? What would you do – request a correction or just accept the trim solution?
.
Looking forward to your answers.
Best regards from Sophia
Whether this is considered a defect or not could be debated. I believe it would at most be a visual flaw, as no function is impaired here.
The question also depends on how it was planned (detailed planning). There are several ways to carry this out:
- installing the last row of tiles at the door only after the door frame is fitted (which is how we did it)
- like it was done here
- adjusting the door frame to fit the tiles (for the skilled door installers who still want to show their craftsmanship).
I think it is wrong to solely blame the tiler here. This solution is quite common, as seen here: the door frame is installed over the wall tiles, and the gap is filled with grout. How was the tiler supposed to know to what exact measurement the tiles should be cut at the opening? The door opening itself cannot serve as a precise guide (at best only roughly), since it does not have to be 100% exact. Additionally, the door could also be installed slightly offset within the opening, which would negate even the most precise work by the tiler.
One could also ask why the door installer did not adjust the frame in the area of the tiles!?
The question also depends on how it was planned (detailed planning). There are several ways to carry this out:
- installing the last row of tiles at the door only after the door frame is fitted (which is how we did it)
- like it was done here
- adjusting the door frame to fit the tiles (for the skilled door installers who still want to show their craftsmanship).
I think it is wrong to solely blame the tiler here. This solution is quite common, as seen here: the door frame is installed over the wall tiles, and the gap is filled with grout. How was the tiler supposed to know to what exact measurement the tiles should be cut at the opening? The door opening itself cannot serve as a precise guide (at best only roughly), since it does not have to be 100% exact. Additionally, the door could also be installed slightly offset within the opening, which would negate even the most precise work by the tiler.
One could also ask why the door installer did not adjust the frame in the area of the tiles!?
Bookstar schrieb:
So where exactly is the problem if the tiler simply stays 5 to 10 cm (2 to 4 inches) away from the door?The problem is obvious: a door frame has to be installed. If the tiler leaves 2, 4, or 6 cm (1, 1.5, or 2.5 inches) from the edge of the wall, it becomes a matter of chance and creates a much more unattractive gap. As you know, the door frame is installed at the very end.
Since a house build managed by a general contractor also has to work logistically, the tiler will tile right up to the edge of the wall before the homeowner then complains about any gap.
But I agree with you: where a door is placed, you actually don’t need tiles.
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irisphm9017 Oct 2018 14:03Battening is, in my opinion, a reasonable option. The local carpenters here use it frequently.
I see it this way: the tiler cannot know which door frame will be used, as these are available in various thicknesses. For this reason, we coordinated this with the tiler beforehand.
I see it this way: the tiler cannot know which door frame will be used, as these are available in various thicknesses. For this reason, we coordinated this with the tiler beforehand.
Winniefred17 Oct 2018 16:56I don’t mind so much if the gap between the door frame and the wall is visually well concealed with decorative moldings, silicone, or something similar, so that it’s not immediately noticeable. In our case, there was a small gap (only about 3-4mm (1/8-5/32 inches)) between the door frame and the tiles. The tiler had deliberately left a little clearance for the door frame to avoid exactly the issue you experienced. When there was still some space left, it was sealed with silicone. The door frame was, of course, installed after the tiles, which we actually preferred. But as I said, I don’t think the gap is a big deal, since it can be quickly and neatly resolved.
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