I have been browsing various topics in the forum for some time but so far have only come across larger construction projects: 120 sqm to 180 sqm (1300 sq ft to 1900 sq ft) or similar.
Therefore, I wonder if anyone here has experience with very, very small residential buildings?
For example: 40 sqm (430 sq ft) of living space (see Thule KuBu40), which is just enough for one person, especially if there is an accompanying garden, conservatory, etc.
Can I still expect costs roughly like the following, adapted from a response in another thread:
Land already owned
2500€/sqm (230$/sq ft): 100,000€
30,000€ for outdoor facilities
Additional construction-related costs 50,000€
No basement
So about 180,000€ in total? My goal is to have a base comparable to my apartments from the last 10 years (30–50 sqm / 320–540 sq ft), but with a private garden and a view of nature.
Unfortunately, I have not been very successful searching the forum, and on my other questions I keep getting lost in threads that are unrelated to what I am asking.
So a link to a similar project would also be very helpful.
Thanks in advance if anyone feels like responding 🙂
Therefore, I wonder if anyone here has experience with very, very small residential buildings?
For example: 40 sqm (430 sq ft) of living space (see Thule KuBu40), which is just enough for one person, especially if there is an accompanying garden, conservatory, etc.
Can I still expect costs roughly like the following, adapted from a response in another thread:
Land already owned
2500€/sqm (230$/sq ft): 100,000€
30,000€ for outdoor facilities
Additional construction-related costs 50,000€
No basement
So about 180,000€ in total? My goal is to have a base comparable to my apartments from the last 10 years (30–50 sqm / 320–540 sq ft), but with a private garden and a view of nature.
Unfortunately, I have not been very successful searching the forum, and on my other questions I keep getting lost in threads that are unrelated to what I am asking.
So a link to a similar project would also be very helpful.
Thanks in advance if anyone feels like responding 🙂
eenuep1 schrieb:
Input or advice regarding air-to-water heat pumps and noise would definitely be interesting.Completely eliminating the noise won’t be possible. The Vaillant air-source heat pumps are quite quiet. Ours, for example, is barely audible from the street, which is about 6 meters (20 feet) away. The unit inside the building hums a bit more when under load. However, when I close the door to the utility room, I can no longer hear it in the living and dining area. Our bedroom is at the opposite end of the house, so it’s quiet there. It’s a good idea to listen to the noise while the system is under load, because they aren’t quite as silent as a gas boiler. 😉Mahri23 schrieb:
Completely eliminating the noise won’t work. The Vaillant air source heat pumps are quite quiet. Ours, at least, is barely audible from the street.
It’s about 6 meters (20 feet) away. The compressor unit inside does hum a bit more under load. But when I close the door to the utility room, I can no longer hear it in the living/dining area. Our bedroom is at the opposite end of the house, so it’s quiet there.
You should definitely listen to the noise under load, though. They aren’t quite as quiet as a gas boiler. 😉 In the proposed floor plan, the utility room was placed next to the bedroom; I would have changed that so the bathroom is in between.
I’m wondering where you can actually listen to one under load. The specification center probably won’t have heat pumps on display. I’ll check if any of their show homes have them. Of course, the question remains if they run under load during visits.
Thanks for the tips.
Oh, regarding indoor noise:
With a 50 sqm (540 sq ft) house, the distance is naturally short, even if there is a small bathroom in between.
I’m not exactly paying little (per sqm), close to 200,000 for the house, and as mentioned, another 30,000 or in the worst case 60,000 or more additional costs. In the end, you definitely don’t want noise disturbance within your own four walls. Refrigerators already annoy me enough with their noise (-;
Let’s see what comes out of the next discussion. I can’t just sign anything on the spot since you work 20 years for that.
If necessary, I would have to consider whether I can have it built myself for less money. Whether you end up with a similar quality and insulation as when a company manufactures it in the factory is questionable. With a current delivery time of 1.5 years, you might actually get it done faster, although right now there are probably only a few offers available.
With a 50 sqm (540 sq ft) house, the distance is naturally short, even if there is a small bathroom in between.
I’m not exactly paying little (per sqm), close to 200,000 for the house, and as mentioned, another 30,000 or in the worst case 60,000 or more additional costs. In the end, you definitely don’t want noise disturbance within your own four walls. Refrigerators already annoy me enough with their noise (-;
Let’s see what comes out of the next discussion. I can’t just sign anything on the spot since you work 20 years for that.
If necessary, I would have to consider whether I can have it built myself for less money. Whether you end up with a similar quality and insulation as when a company manufactures it in the factory is questionable. With a current delivery time of 1.5 years, you might actually get it done faster, although right now there are probably only a few offers available.
eenuep1 schrieb:
I wonder where you can listen to something like this under load. I easily listened to it at another homeowner's place who has a house from the same company as mine. I didn’t go to a show home, but heard it under real-life conditions.
It’s definitely better if there is at least one, or even two rooms in between... As mentioned before, the inner tower buzzes louder in my ears than the outer part. The outer part just makes a slight noise.
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motorradsilke18 Dec 2021 12:18eenuep1 schrieb:
In the proposed floor plan, the utility room was placed next to the bedroom. I would have changed that so the bathroom is in between.
I’m wondering where you can listen to one of these units under load. The selection center probably won’t have any heat pumps. I’ll ask if any of their show homes have one. Whether it runs under load there is, of course, another question.
Thanks for the tips Our bedroom is next to the utility room. There is a wardrobe against the wall, but the bedroom door is directly adjacent to the utility room door. Even though the doors are often open (at least the bedroom door because of the cat), you cannot hear the indoor unit in the bedroom—not even a little bit. You can hear the indoor unit inside the utility room itself, but it is much quieter than a refrigerator (at least ours is louder). The outdoor unit cannot be heard indoors at all, not even in the utility room where it is located right outside. What we find much more annoying is that the outdoor unit constantly produces an airflow directed exactly towards our yard, where I get out of the car or often walk by. THAT is a reason for us to possibly reconsider the location of that part. The frustrating thing is that the general contractor advised us not to place the unit next to the bedroom. But it wouldn’t have been disturbing there at all.
If you want to hear one under load, just walk through new housing developments and, if necessary, ask the residents if you can listen to their units.
eenuep1 schrieb:
Input or advice regarding air-to-water heat pumps and noise levels would definitely be interesting.If I ever become Chancellor, the only approvals for such buzzing boxes will be granted exclusively right next to the operator’s pillow. Every time I walk the dog, I am amazed how the frequency range manages to bother humans more than the dog. Furthermore, EVERY cheap fan tends to get progressively louder over time.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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