Hello everyone, we are currently in negotiations:
508m² (5474 sq ft), facing east, with a front width of 15.10 m (50 feet) and therefore about 32 m (105 feet) long, since the rear width is approximately 16 m (52.5 feet).
We are allowed to build according to §34a [34a].
That means for us: in line with the neighboring buildings.
So the house will start about 1.50 m (5 feet) from the street. We want to build a single garage to the left side of the house, so on the north side. We also want a carport on the south side. We plan to build without a basement. Therefore, the utility room needs to be on the ground floor, and we also need a workshop room for my husband. The question is: should we outsource the workshop and attach it to the garage, or integrate it into the house? The house will be about 9 m (30 feet) wide, but nothing else is fixed yet.
We want a fireplace in the living room and a walk-in closet in the master bedroom. Since we don’t have gas supply, we want to heat with an air-source heat pump. We received a suggestion to install the air-source heat pump in a room behind the garage.
By the way, we don’t have children yet but want one, maybe two. We are currently 30 and 31 years old. Construction is planned to start this fall.
So far, we have rough floor plan sketches, but we are already so focused that no new ideas are coming to us.
We would like a townhouse-style villa with around 135–145 m² (1450–1560 sq ft).
Oh, and the master bedroom should face the garden, oriented south/east. The children’s bedroom preferably north/west.
Does anyone have floor plan suggestions?
Have I forgotten anything important?
The house width max. 9 m (30 feet)
House length up to 12 m (39 feet) possible.
This is roughly the building envelope.
508m² (5474 sq ft), facing east, with a front width of 15.10 m (50 feet) and therefore about 32 m (105 feet) long, since the rear width is approximately 16 m (52.5 feet).
We are allowed to build according to §34a [34a].
That means for us: in line with the neighboring buildings.
So the house will start about 1.50 m (5 feet) from the street. We want to build a single garage to the left side of the house, so on the north side. We also want a carport on the south side. We plan to build without a basement. Therefore, the utility room needs to be on the ground floor, and we also need a workshop room for my husband. The question is: should we outsource the workshop and attach it to the garage, or integrate it into the house? The house will be about 9 m (30 feet) wide, but nothing else is fixed yet.
We want a fireplace in the living room and a walk-in closet in the master bedroom. Since we don’t have gas supply, we want to heat with an air-source heat pump. We received a suggestion to install the air-source heat pump in a room behind the garage.
By the way, we don’t have children yet but want one, maybe two. We are currently 30 and 31 years old. Construction is planned to start this fall.
So far, we have rough floor plan sketches, but we are already so focused that no new ideas are coming to us.
We would like a townhouse-style villa with around 135–145 m² (1450–1560 sq ft).
Oh, and the master bedroom should face the garden, oriented south/east. The children’s bedroom preferably north/west.
Does anyone have floor plan suggestions?
Have I forgotten anything important?
The house width max. 9 m (30 feet)
House length up to 12 m (39 feet) possible.
This is roughly the building envelope.
Our floor plan is finalized.
Ground floor: 74.49 m2 (801.9 sq ft)
Upper floor: 69.26 m2 (745.5 sq ft)
No basement.
Detached city villa with a hipped roof.
With a double garage on the left side (one behind the other, so 3 m × 12 m (10 ft × 39 ft)).
Now the question: who should we build with?
Independently with an architect and separate trades or with a regional prefab house supplier?
What will it all cost us?
So many questions.
The plot is purchased and paid for.
We have inquired at the bank for 240,000 (currency not stated), but is that enough?
Our guideline was to take the price of a turnkey house of the same size plus about 10% for miscellaneous expenses, and now we want to do several trades ourselves: complete screed, flooring, tiles, and electrical work, since we have professionals in the family. In the end, we want to hire plasterers again because filling and smoothing is just too time-consuming. Both of us work full time.
What price per square meter (sq ft) do you estimate?
No extras except for the fireplace, laundry chute in the walk-in closet, and the small gallery. We do have a lot of window area. Interior white, exterior anthracite.
I’m simply at a loss. The turnkey offers seem suspicious and opaque to me.
But the architect wants payment upfront, and if it ends up being a prefab builder, we would basically pay the architect twice.
Is 240,000 enough for everything?
Including additional construction costs such as connections and earthworks (the plot is flat).
Thanks for your input!
Sorry for the mixed capitalization, typos, etc. — greetings from my phone.
Ground floor: 74.49 m2 (801.9 sq ft)
Upper floor: 69.26 m2 (745.5 sq ft)
No basement.
Detached city villa with a hipped roof.
With a double garage on the left side (one behind the other, so 3 m × 12 m (10 ft × 39 ft)).
Now the question: who should we build with?
Independently with an architect and separate trades or with a regional prefab house supplier?
What will it all cost us?
So many questions.
The plot is purchased and paid for.
We have inquired at the bank for 240,000 (currency not stated), but is that enough?
Our guideline was to take the price of a turnkey house of the same size plus about 10% for miscellaneous expenses, and now we want to do several trades ourselves: complete screed, flooring, tiles, and electrical work, since we have professionals in the family. In the end, we want to hire plasterers again because filling and smoothing is just too time-consuming. Both of us work full time.
What price per square meter (sq ft) do you estimate?
No extras except for the fireplace, laundry chute in the walk-in closet, and the small gallery. We do have a lot of window area. Interior white, exterior anthracite.
I’m simply at a loss. The turnkey offers seem suspicious and opaque to me.
But the architect wants payment upfront, and if it ends up being a prefab builder, we would basically pay the architect twice.
Is 240,000 enough for everything?
Including additional construction costs such as connections and earthworks (the plot is flat).
Thanks for your input!
Sorry for the mixed capitalization, typos, etc. — greetings from my phone.
First the house size, then the budget question?
You have 150 sqm (1615 sq ft) minus 6 sqm (65 sq ft) gallery/void?
Unfortunately, I don’t see where you want to build...
€1800 x 150 plus garage (not sure why these should be added consecutively) plus additional construction costs.
€335,000 plus exterior works (paving and lawn)
Best regards, Yvonne
You have 150 sqm (1615 sq ft) minus 6 sqm (65 sq ft) gallery/void?
Unfortunately, I don’t see where you want to build...
€1800 x 150 plus garage (not sure why these should be added consecutively) plus additional construction costs.
€335,000 plus exterior works (paving and lawn)
Best regards, Yvonne
I don’t think it necessarily has to be an architect. In my opinion, a licensed structural engineer with building permit authorization is sufficient. My most recent price information (2007) was that they are available starting around 4000 EUR. They are often found at home building trade shows. Contracting trades individually has the advantage that you don’t have to be tied down by a single signature for everything. You can choose who you want to work with for each trade, or even decide to do some work yourself.
With home building companies, you will notice that the big profit is usually hidden within one of the trades. That can easily be 20,000 to 40,000 EUR. My “profit” is now standing in my garage and can retract the roof at the push of a button :-).
However, this approach also requires considerable effort. You have to thoroughly engage with every single trade: obtaining quotes, preparing price comparisons, and negotiating. In the end, you will know every detail about your house and hopefully feel that you did everything correctly.
Important: Take your time with every decision.
I also ask the question: 12 m (39 feet) boundary build? I know of 9 m (30 feet) on one side and a maximum of 15 m (49 feet) total.
12 m (39 feet) garage length is good if you need to park two cars one behind the other. That still leaves space for a workbench. But 3 m (10 feet) width is too narrow. With a 9 m (30 feet) house and 3 m (10 feet) distance to the neighbor, couldn’t you manage 4 m (13 feet) if the lot is 16 m (52 feet) wide at the front? Every centimeter counts in a garage. Mine is 12 x 5.5 m (39 x 18 feet) and it’s already too small...
With home building companies, you will notice that the big profit is usually hidden within one of the trades. That can easily be 20,000 to 40,000 EUR. My “profit” is now standing in my garage and can retract the roof at the push of a button :-).
However, this approach also requires considerable effort. You have to thoroughly engage with every single trade: obtaining quotes, preparing price comparisons, and negotiating. In the end, you will know every detail about your house and hopefully feel that you did everything correctly.
Important: Take your time with every decision.
I also ask the question: 12 m (39 feet) boundary build? I know of 9 m (30 feet) on one side and a maximum of 15 m (49 feet) total.
12 m (39 feet) garage length is good if you need to park two cars one behind the other. That still leaves space for a workbench. But 3 m (10 feet) width is too narrow. With a 9 m (30 feet) house and 3 m (10 feet) distance to the neighbor, couldn’t you manage 4 m (13 feet) if the lot is 16 m (52 feet) wide at the front? Every centimeter counts in a garage. Mine is 12 x 5.5 m (39 x 18 feet) and it’s already too small...
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Traumfaenger11 Aug 2017 23:32Jenni486 schrieb:
We requested a loan of 240,000 euros multiple times from the bank, but is that enough?
What price per square meter do you calculate?
But the architect wants payment upfront, and if we end up going with a prefab builder, it feels like we’ve paid the architect twice.
Is 240,000 enough for everything?
Including additional construction costs like connections, groundwork (the lot is flat)... I honestly can’t imagine that 240,000 EUR would be enough WITHOUT groundwork, connections, and other additional construction costs. Definitely not with those costs included!
From experience, I would estimate around 2,000 EUR per square meter (approx. 93 sq ft), depending on the specifications, this can easily rise to 2,400 or even 3,500 EUR per square meter (approx. 89 or 163 sq ft). Even in Lower Saxony, you won’t find significantly lower prices compared to the rest of Germany for different products.
You should definitely ask an architect who knows your region and local prices and possibly commission a preliminary design (for example, design phases 1–4). Most prefab home builders will credit these costs back to you!
RobsonMKK schrieb:
12-meter edge development? ypg schrieb:
First the house size, then the budget question?
You have 150 sqm (1615 sq ft) minus 6 sqm (65 sq ft) gallery/air space?
Unfortunately, I don’t see where you want to build...
1800€ x 150 plus garage (for whatever reason in a row) plus additional construction costs.
335,000 plus landscaping (paving and lawn)
Regards, Yvonne Hello Yvonne,
Yes, 12 m (39 feet) edge development. Garage in front, workshop behind for my husband. We are building without a basement, so there is an additional workshop/tool room behind the garage.
No other way to arrange it space-wise.
We are building in Saarland.
Where does a figure of over 300,000 euros come from?
We have a lot of skilled professionals in the family, and the terrace/driveway will be paved by ourselves.
Landscaping is not a priority; it will come once EVERYTHING is finished.
Unfortunately, only 3 m (10 feet) wide. More might be possible because our plot is slightly tapered, but we have checked a 3-meter (10 feet) garage and it fits.
12 m (39 feet) boundary construction was approved by the building authority / planning permission office.
Additional construction costs? How I estimate or calculate those remains a mystery to me...
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