ᐅ House extends above ground level – how much soil can be backfilled (with shallow basement)?

Created on: 15 Oct 2022 19:11
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Machu Picchu
Hello everyone,

we are now in the final phase of our house construction.

Because the sewage system on our property is not far below ground level and we did not install a sewage lift system, our basement was only excavated to a shallow depth.

The ceiling height of the basement rooms is 2.50m (8 feet 2 inches), as these areas are intended to be living spaces, unlike the neighboring houses, whose basement heights are lower.

As a result, our front door and the two patio doors are positioned much higher than those of the neighboring houses. In the next few days, soil will be filled up to the level of the terrace and front doors.

I do not want this to turn into a discussion about different construction methods; instead, I am looking for advice on how to best handle this somewhat unusual situation.

First, some photos:



Marked in red are the two patio doors. Soil will be filled up to just below these patio doors, except, of course, at light wells and shafts. The terrace will be paved around the corner, following the two indicated patio doors (because we wanted two sunny sides on the terrace for different times of the day). To the left of the single-leaf patio door (where the exterior plaster ends), a retaining wall will be built from the terrace level down to the ground.



This is a front view. On the left, the construction staircase leads up to the entrance door. The front door is at the same level as the two patio doors.



Here is the view from the back.



This is the view from the back toward the front door.



And here is another rear view including the neighboring houses.

As planned, as mentioned, soil will be filled up to the level of the house and terrace doors, and at this level the garden will be designed on the side of the large double patio door as well as behind the house, with steep slopes created just before the property boundary.

On the front door side, soil will also be filled up to front door level.

Toward the "front" (the side with the single patio door), the street level will be reached by terrace-like steps with 2-3 slope terraces supported by walls/granite.

Our concern now is: if we fill soil all around the house at door level on the side with the double patio door, at the back, and on the front door side, our garden height will be so high that, compared to the neighbors, our house will stand out significantly due to the very elevated ground level.

We are now considering ways to soften this.

One idea is to fill soil to door level only at the terrace wrapping the corner and directly at the front door, and to fill soil, for example, 50cm (20 inches) below door level everywhere else.

This way, the garden level would not be so dramatically higher than the neighbors’.

The problem with this is that we would partially expose the "basement" and areas without exterior plaster would become visible. We would likely need to hire a plasterer on our own to plaster additional areas and paint them with gray base paint. Time is tight because the soil will be delivered for filling within the next days/weeks. How long would such plastering take and what would it approximately cost?

Question to the forum: What do you think about this? Do you have other solutions? Or are our concerns unfounded?

Thank you very much in advance for any advice.
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Machu Picchu
15 Oct 2022 20:53
Yosan schrieb:

This is really difficult. How high exactly above the current ground level are the doors?

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Machu Picchu
15 Oct 2022 20:56
Yosan schrieb:

That was my first thought as well. You’d just have to check if the balcony would then be high enough to stand under. Otherwise, it might be better to raise the ground there, build a retaining wall around it (consider drainage), and keep the rest at the existing level.

What do you mean by "existing level"? Something between the terrace height and street level, or completely at street level?
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Yosan
15 Oct 2022 21:00
Machu Picchu schrieb:

What do you mean by "remaining level"? Somewhere between the terrace height and street level, or completely at street level?

I mean the current ground level (plus a bit of topsoil or paving stones at the entrance, or similar). You also need to consider that your inspection shaft is at street level, if I am reading the pictures correctly.
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Machu Picchu
15 Oct 2022 21:01
ypg schrieb:



Because of this exact reason, it is stated in the zoning plan (or does the state building code apply?)

Since our zoning plan does not provide any information: Does the state building code (in this case: Bavaria) therefore apply, and what regulations are specified there?
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Machu Picchu
15 Oct 2022 21:07
Yosan schrieb:

I mean the current ground level (plus a bit of topsoil or paving stones near the entrance or similar). You also have to consider that your inspection shaft is at street level, if I’m seeing it correctly in the pictures.

Then the basement would essentially be fully exposed, except for the terrace area; it would basically become the ground floor. The basement rooms could have been equipped with large standard windows instead of small light well windows. A base coat for the facade wouldn’t have been necessary, and this option would require much less exterior plaster...
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Yosan
15 Oct 2022 21:15
Machu Picchu schrieb:

Then the basement would basically be completely exposed, except in the area of the terrace, making it essentially the ground floor. The rooms in the basement could have been fitted with large standard windows instead of small light well windows – and there would have been no need for base coat paint, plus a lot of exterior plaster would be unnecessary for this option...
Exactly.
“If only...” You will have to face some challenges, as this is unfortunately not a minor issue. How much budget has been allocated for the exterior area?
I’m not saying my first idea is the best possible solution, but there won’t be a perfect one.