Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size – approx. 1000m² (0.25 acres)
Slope – yes, about one full story along the length of the house
Number of parking spaces – 4 (2 of which are carport or garage)
Number of floors – no restrictions
Roof style – anything except flat roof
Architectural style – rural, classic
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type – no Bauhaus, rather country house style
Basement, stories – 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages – currently 3: 37, 30, 2
Space needs on ground and upper floors
Office: family use or home office? Both fully remote: Home office is a permanent workplace for both
Occasional guests per year – 4-6?
Conservative or modern construction – conservative
Open kitchen, island – open but L-shaped, with an island
Number of dining seats – at least 8, with room for more
Fireplace – no
Music/stereo wall – no
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – yes
Utility garden, greenhouse – possibly, no major importance
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided:
- Space for a Christmas tree in the living/dining area
- “Nerd cave”: a larger hobby room for retro games, preferably without windows -> no UV exposure
- Home gym – room for at least one rack and some additional equipment
- Cooking, dining, and living areas open and arranged in a corner layout
- Pantry desired
- Cloakroom area near the entrance for jackets and shoes
- 2 children’s bedrooms plus guest room
- Parents’ bedroom with walk-in closet
- Utility/laundry room on the sleeping floor
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you especially like? Why?
- All the wishes we sent over two pages of text have been perfectly incorporated
- Large, symmetrical pantry
- Very open, spacious living area
- Option to convert the gym into a second office if needed for work
- All children’s bedrooms are the same size
What don’t you like? Why?
- It is simply very large – pricing is at the upper limit of what we can afford
- Posts (presumably for structural reasons) in the living/dining area
- Office could possibly be a bit bigger, but the house is already huge
Price estimate according to architect/planner: Fixed-price turnkey offers from two providers so far likely to be in the range of 490,000–520,000 (currency not specified)
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 500,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump, central ventilation system, air conditioning
If you had to give up something, which details/expansions
- Could give up: maybe one room, open areas in the hallway
- Cannot give up: ventilation system, air conditioning, pantry, basically almost everything else 😀
Why did the design turn out the way it is? For example:
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Simply all of them. We had communicated our wishes in writing, and the design fully reflects our complete “wish list.”
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Everything we need is included; it’s large, inviting, open, bright, and leaves no wishes unfulfilled. However, the price is close to the maximum monthly financial burden we want to accept.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
My husband is completely thrilled with this floor plan, and he’s usually not so easily enthusiastic. 😀
I also find it very well done. But it’s clearly the fact that all our wishes are included that makes it great for us.
I’m just curious to hear your opinion.
Here, @Pinkiponk – I just went ahead and posted it. 🙂
Plot size – approx. 1000m² (0.25 acres)
Slope – yes, about one full story along the length of the house
Number of parking spaces – 4 (2 of which are carport or garage)
Number of floors – no restrictions
Roof style – anything except flat roof
Architectural style – rural, classic
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type – no Bauhaus, rather country house style
Basement, stories – 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages – currently 3: 37, 30, 2
Space needs on ground and upper floors
Office: family use or home office? Both fully remote: Home office is a permanent workplace for both
Occasional guests per year – 4-6?
Conservative or modern construction – conservative
Open kitchen, island – open but L-shaped, with an island
Number of dining seats – at least 8, with room for more
Fireplace – no
Music/stereo wall – no
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – yes
Utility garden, greenhouse – possibly, no major importance
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided:
- Space for a Christmas tree in the living/dining area
- “Nerd cave”: a larger hobby room for retro games, preferably without windows -> no UV exposure
- Home gym – room for at least one rack and some additional equipment
- Cooking, dining, and living areas open and arranged in a corner layout
- Pantry desired
- Cloakroom area near the entrance for jackets and shoes
- 2 children’s bedrooms plus guest room
- Parents’ bedroom with walk-in closet
- Utility/laundry room on the sleeping floor
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you especially like? Why?
- All the wishes we sent over two pages of text have been perfectly incorporated
- Large, symmetrical pantry
- Very open, spacious living area
- Option to convert the gym into a second office if needed for work
- All children’s bedrooms are the same size
What don’t you like? Why?
- It is simply very large – pricing is at the upper limit of what we can afford
- Posts (presumably for structural reasons) in the living/dining area
- Office could possibly be a bit bigger, but the house is already huge
Price estimate according to architect/planner: Fixed-price turnkey offers from two providers so far likely to be in the range of 490,000–520,000 (currency not specified)
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 500,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump, central ventilation system, air conditioning
If you had to give up something, which details/expansions
- Could give up: maybe one room, open areas in the hallway
- Cannot give up: ventilation system, air conditioning, pantry, basically almost everything else 😀
Why did the design turn out the way it is? For example:
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Simply all of them. We had communicated our wishes in writing, and the design fully reflects our complete “wish list.”
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Everything we need is included; it’s large, inviting, open, bright, and leaves no wishes unfulfilled. However, the price is close to the maximum monthly financial burden we want to accept.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
My husband is completely thrilled with this floor plan, and he’s usually not so easily enthusiastic. 😀
I also find it very well done. But it’s clearly the fact that all our wishes are included that makes it great for us.
I’m just curious to hear your opinion.
Here, @Pinkiponk – I just went ahead and posted it. 🙂
[A clear conversation does not help. One ear in, the other out. This is not even the direct neighbor. The houses uphill also have the problem that the volume on the TV inside has to be turned up, or sleeping is only possible with earplugs. They couldn’t locate the source because of the sound transmission. At this point, only the local authorities or more residents complaining will help.
Add the costs for landscaping as well. Don’t forget to plan a path or slope so you can get wheelbarrows and similar equipment into the garden.]
Ugh, that’s really annoying. 🙁 I totally sympathize with you. When it’s property owners, you can only get so far with the police. We once had a situation like that in a rental apartment where the stereo would be turned up again right after the police left. :/
Costs for outdoor areas and the terrace are included in our overall budget. I should have mentioned somewhere in the initial post that the price estimate is not meant to cover the entire project.
Add the costs for landscaping as well. Don’t forget to plan a path or slope so you can get wheelbarrows and similar equipment into the garden.]
Ugh, that’s really annoying. 🙁 I totally sympathize with you. When it’s property owners, you can only get so far with the police. We once had a situation like that in a rental apartment where the stereo would be turned up again right after the police left. :/
Costs for outdoor areas and the terrace are included in our overall budget. I should have mentioned somewhere in the initial post that the price estimate is not meant to cover the entire project.
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Pinkiponk31 Mar 2022 13:50kati1337 schrieb:
Furthermore, the guest room at the new home plays a less important role because my family lives nearby and therefore is less likely to stay overnight here. It’s not only that your family will stay with you less often, but now if you have many guests at once, you can also, after consulting with them, arrange for them to stay with parents, grandparents, or other relatives.
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Pinkiponk31 Mar 2022 13:52haydee schrieb:
A clarifying conversation doesn’t help. It just goes in one ear and out the other. This isn’t even the direct neighbor. The houses further uphill have the same problem: they have to turn up the TV volume or can only sleep with earplugs. They couldn’t pinpoint the source because of how sound travels. At this point, only the authorities or more complaints from other residents will help.
Also, factor in the costs for landscaping. Don’t forget to create a path or slope so you can access the garden with a wheelbarrow and other equipment. I’m sorry, but I’m not sure which post you are referring to. Could you please clarify?
kati1337 schrieb:
Edit: Having the office on a different floor is not an option. We work from home all day. Our movements during the day constantly go back and forth between the kitchen and the office; I’m not going to take the stairs for every coffee and banana.
For us, office and living space belong together. My office is on the second floor (2nd floor), and I’m glad to have a reason to walk down a few steps to the ground floor (first floor) to get something from the kitchen. It helps me take a break from the screen. It was no different “back then” when I worked at a company office. To get to the coffee machine or meeting rooms, I had to go up or down two floors. None of my colleagues ever praised the short distances at home as an advantage compared to that. In fact, it’s more of a disadvantage because during the workday you end up working more and taking fewer breaks.
Pinkiponk schrieb:
Sorry, but I don’t know which post you’re referring to. Could you please tell me? Not any specific one. Just the fact that Kati experienced the noise nuisance and now I have the same.
@kati1337 is the owner. They also have to follow the rules. If people can sing along to the songs inside the house from 100 m (330 ft) away and dance on the balcony 200 m (660 ft) away, it’s too loud.
I know your outdoor area wasn’t involved. It was just a remark. We don’t have any access through the old retaining wall. We use the public stairs next door or go through the house or take the longer way around and approach from above. Not ideal. And everything costs more than building on the flat area.