ᐅ Gas Price Increase Effective January 1, 2022

Doesn't it strike anyone as ridiculous to attack each other personally and escalate the argument over heating systems (!) of all things? It’s always the same pattern: know-it-alls meet oversensitivity and vice versa – seasoned with a bit of delight in mockery and provocation. A playground argument over a sand mold has more factual basis.

Children naturally resolve conflicts better and more socially... until the first know-it-all adult arrives...

ypg schrieb:

Anyone heating with gas will be disqualified and criticized here.

Today I took part in a discussion with the DGNB (German Sustainable Building Council – they certify eco-friendly buildings like hotels, offices, logistics centers, etc., and also partly handle tasks for the KfW in this field).

Clear message: Without a heat pump, green houses will not be possible in the future. The targets set for sustainability, ESG, and the EU Taxonomy cannot be met otherwise. This will strongly impact small private house builders as well. I’m referring to the new “KfW 40” efficiency house standard.

It could also be done quite differently. In Denmark, even in rural areas, ecological district heating is used. Feel free to look at the pictures on aerø fjernvarme punkt dk; huge solar panel fields there produce the hot water. When there is no sun, gas is used.

RotorMotor schrieb:

What are the gas heating costs in a newly built home before and after the increase?

Do you mean me as the thread starter and previous speaker?
They were €73 (about $79) and would be €161 (about $174) from 1/1/22. Thanks for asking.

I have meanwhile posted the current situation here:
Apparently, my supplier no longer deals with “gas,” or at least no longer offers it (probably because they didn’t purchase any gas), doubling! the price and driving attentive customers to another supplier. That includes me—I switched to my electricity provider yesterday. I’m now in a normal price range, about 15% higher than before.
I complained about a more than 100% increase, while others here didn’t even question whether that was realistic.
For me, everything is back in perspective. One situation is like that, another differently. Electricity is getting more expensive too. Gasoline prices have also gone up.

RotorMotor schrieb:

From what point would switching to other technology pay off financially?

RotorMotor schrieb:

Existing buildings are of course a different issue.

😉

Changing the heating system is not an option for us. Why would it be?! It runs efficiently and reliably and is only 8 years old. So it remains as is. 😉

We never aimed for a “green house,” but always a white one!
We don’t drive diesel vehicles, have reduced our air travel, I increasingly bike to work in the summer, and my husband walks to do the shopping. I grow my own vegetables. So, I must say I can still hold my head up—I don’t have to switch and I’m not ashamed.
I’m curious when the first person here will complain or be surprised about increased or high electricity prices.

… and what I forgot: the solar heat! Our house benefits from well-positioned window areas. Nothing is covered up even in winter. The house heats up well, and the tiles store the warmth.
So, our heating system is hardly used. But who wants to compare?
This was almost a justification already. I’ll leave it as it is anyway.

Nordlys schrieb:

You could do it completely differently. In Denmark, even in rural areas, they rely on ecological district heating.

But then you probably wouldn’t be independent?! Many don’t like that …