ᐅ New Single-Family Home Construction – Gas or Air Source Heat Pump + Photovoltaic System + Energy Storage?

nordanney schrieb:

My heat pump cost €3,000 (about $3,200). What did your gas boiler cost again, including the gas connection?

If you’re going to compare, please include everything: gas boiler, gas connection, solar thermal system, chimney, second meter including basic tariff, and of course the regular chimney sweep inspections.

@nullhorn @Pumpernickel1 are you still following this thread at all? Besides the personal back-and-forth between some forum members... do you have any further questions?

Hangman schrieb:

If you’re going for it, then do it completely: gas boiler, gas connection, solar thermal system, chimney, second meter plus basic tariff, and of course the regular visits from the chimney sweep.

@nullhorn @Pumpernickel1 are you still following this thread at all? Besides the personal exchanges between some forum members… do you have any other questions?

Hello @Hangman,
We have now decided to take a completely different route and are going with a ground-source heat pump.
I would prefer gas over an air-to-water heat pump since it’s unbeatable in terms of price (purchase plus operation). But due to various discussions, future developments, and so on, we have turned our back on gas.

I have just struggled through 17 pages and want to add one word that speaks against heat pumps:

NOISE LEVEL!

From a homeowner who can clearly tell, from 20 meters (65 feet) away with the window closed, exactly when the neighbor is in the shower and the air-to-water heat pump is heating the hot water. It’s hard to imagine if every house were heated this way...

And now, please, another round of discussion 😉

markus2703 schrieb:

the argument against heat pumps:

NOISE LEVEL!

You need to correct that. You have to add one more word: the argument against INDIVIDUAL heat pumps...

Under normal circumstances, you hardly hear the heat pump at all. A properly installed and mounted Geisha unit is completely inaudible during the day (because the ambient noise is too high) and at night you only hear it if you are close to it. For example, with the window open, my tenant living above me cannot hear anything at night, even though the heat pump is located right below the window.

markus2703 schrieb:

And now, please, another round of discussion;)

Quiet model, geothermal energy, indoor installation. End of discussion. ;-)

A very interesting discussion.

In my new build (moved in at the end of 2018), I deliberately chose a gas heating system. I would have preferred not to have solar panels on the roof either. Unfortunately, that was no longer an option.

Additionally, I own two cars myself (an 8-cylinder gasoline engine and a 6-cylinder diesel), and I will happily continue to drive them until it is no longer possible.

And no, I do care about the environment. However, environmental protection cannot always be carried on the backs of the middle class. New standards for house construction are introduced almost every year, making new builds less and less affordable for many people. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. In recent years, environmental protection has been used exclusively to introduce increasingly absurd taxes, bans, regulations, and so on. It should be well known that even Green Party politicians preach water and drink wine.

Back to the topic of cars. My two old combustion engines are 28 and 19 years old. For me, this is real environmental protection. No constant, unnecessary replacement of consumer goods, and so on. The scrappage bonus, for example, clearly represents the absurdity of “environmental policy” in my opinion. Cars that were manufactured with an incredibly high energy input being scrapped after just a few years cannot be the solution. The problems related to the production of batteries for electric cars should also be well understood.

I prefer to repair rather than buy new, I gladly wear second-hand clothing, and I enjoy driving old cars.

That is my contribution to environmental protection.