ᐅ New Single-Family Home Construction – Gas or Air Source Heat Pump + Photovoltaic System + Energy Storage?

Created on: 25 Apr 2021 14:18
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nullhorn
Hello everyone,

I will be building a house in 2021/2022 and will live in it myself. It’s a 10x10 meter (33x33 feet), 1.5-story standard single-family house. The roof is a pitched roof with a 40-degree pitch, ridge direction North/South (so the roof faces East/West and can be equipped with photovoltaic panels).

Now, my question: Gas is available in the area. Which heating technology would you recommend?

Gas? Air-source heat pump + photovoltaic + battery storage? Ground-source heat pump? Or something completely different?

And who can give me advice like this without any hidden profit motives (like heating installers always pushing gas, etc.)?

Regards,
Flo
Tarnari5 Sep 2021 17:00
@pagoni2020 without intending to join the actual discussion, I just want to note for the record that we planned to install a ground source heat pump long before we knew there was any subsidy available. Admittedly, we gladly took advantage of the funding once it was announced. But, and this is my point, there is at least one person (you wanted an example) who would have installed the pump, even a ground source one, without any subsidy. And now I’m out again 🙂
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pagoni2020
5 Sep 2021 17:53
@Tarnari I hereby appoint myself as the official reporting contact for such "cases of suspicion." From now on, you will be listed as "cleared of suspicion" 😀.

Jokes aside, there is nothing wrong with receiving subsidies. I once received one for designing special living spaces, and I have also applied for one now. My point here is about the general finger-pointing and stigmatization in this case.

It’s the SUV, the diesel engine, long-distance travel, the wood stove, meat, and much more. I keep seeing more and more stigmatizing black-and-white thinking, which immediately blocks any possibility for constructive discussion. Eventually, heat pump owners with deep geothermal drilling will point fingers at the “ecological villains” using standard air-to-water heat pumps, or the owner of a heat pump made in Germany will criticize the owner of an Asian heat pump because of the long transport route, etc. There’s always something, and in the end even the unnecessary, toxic substances in Rezo’s blue hair... completely unnecessary and harmful socially and health-wise.

Here I often read that the real motivation for choosing a heat pump is the government subsidy, which is completely understandable. However, in that case, people shouldn’t wave an ecological finger too much, but rather admit that they did it because it was free and, coincidentally, also environmentally quite acceptable. I find that honest and understandable.

Additionally, verbal attacks or odd comparisons involving prostitutes etc. certainly won’t convince anyone of my, albeit respectable, position: “If you do that, you’re an eco-pig.”
Tarnari5 Sep 2021 18:01
In fact, our decision to choose a ground-source heat pump was based on two main points. First and most importantly, we absolutely did not want to use fossil fuels (ideological reasons). Second, we wanted to reduce ongoing costs as much as possible.

By the way, in many cases, I fully agree with you.
rick20185 Sep 2021 19:06
@Deliverer With such provocative statements, I hope you haven’t built a single-family house, don’t own a combustion engine vehicle, don’t fly, and don’t have children who would further impact the environment…

Let’s keep things realistic. Gas is still a legitimate heating option nowadays. Electricity prices are also rising. The increasing number of electric vehicles further raises demand.

Most homebuilders will probably choose the “sweet spot” between cost and ideology.
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Isokrates
5 Sep 2021 19:08
pagoni2020 schrieb:

Here I often read that the real driving force behind heat pumps is government subsidies, which is completely understandable.

Without wanting to get too involved in the discussion here, I would like to offer a new perspective:

Why does the government promote heat pump technology, and specifically only the most efficient ones?
Whereas building a new home with gas is made more difficult by laws (only legal with compensatory measures).

Once these questions are answered, one should understand what the current social consensus is, as expressed through elected representatives and thus the majority of the population.
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Deliverer
5 Sep 2021 19:11
rick2018 schrieb:

@Deliverer with such provocative statements ...
Which of my statements exactly do you mean?