Dear forum,
we are currently planning the construction of our single-family house. Last week, I created an initial draft for the lighting and electrical installation, which I would like to share here for discussion.
Do you think I should reduce the number of recessed ceiling lights? Are the power outlets sufficient? I look forward to your comments!
we are currently planning the construction of our single-family house. Last week, I created an initial draft for the lighting and electrical installation, which I would like to share here for discussion.
Do you think I should reduce the number of recessed ceiling lights? Are the power outlets sufficient? I look forward to your comments!
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AllThumbs10 May 2021 21:43K1300S schrieb:
Heating circuit manifold(s) and door communication system – even though you, @AllThumbs, are decorating my quote with feathers. 😉Pssst, I’ve already patted myself on the shoulder 😀W
Wandervogel8510 May 2021 22:07This thread is great.
I had basically already thought that I didn't need smart home systems or KNX.
Now I'm sure. Never ever.
A simple (light) switch always works, requires no software updates, and no control units. How many hundreds of computer connectors and interfaces have been developed over the last 25 years? Each time, people thought they had found the perfect system—until a new one came along. And five years later, there’s nothing left that you can connect to it.
I had basically already thought that I didn't need smart home systems or KNX.
Now I'm sure. Never ever.
A simple (light) switch always works, requires no software updates, and no control units. How many hundreds of computer connectors and interfaces have been developed over the last 25 years? Each time, people thought they had found the perfect system—until a new one came along. And five years later, there’s nothing left that you can connect to it.
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AllThumbs10 May 2021 22:11Wandervogel85 schrieb:
Computer connection plugThat basically says it all about your post 🙄
Hendrik1980 schrieb:
Thanks for the tip! That already helps a lot! But 60 tons is, of course, a whole different matter. €60K (about $60K) is a lot of money. You’ve read my breakdown of what we achieved for that amount. Keep in mind that a significant part of it is unrelated to KNX.
Our architect initially estimated €20K (about $20K) for a traditional electrical installation. However, since she (and we respect her, seriously) has no understanding of modern electrical systems, I claim that was very optimistic. With that €20K (about $20K), we would never have been able to implement our current network installation, audio/video door station, and camera surveillance. She also didn’t include any “extras” like centralized lighting and blind/shutter control or outdoor motion detectors.
If you want to consider all of that, €20K (about $20K) is completely unrealistic.
So, I can’t say we paid €60K (about $60K) for KNX alone. Rather, we paid €60K (about $60K) for a high-end electrical setup including KNX.
Wandervogel85 schrieb:
A simple (light) switch always works and doesn’t require any software updates The same applies to KNX. It always works and doesn’t need updates. You are probably confusing it with the pseudo-smart systems from online retailers.
Wandervogel85 schrieb:
How many hundreds of computer connectors and interfaces have been developed over the last 25 years? Yes, many, for various reasons. KNX has stuck with the KNX terminal, USB, and RJ-45 connectors for those 25 years, and enthusiasts can still communicate via RS-232.
Wandervogel85 schrieb:
And every time people thought that this was the perfect system. No, that was never the case. At least not for anyone who knows more than just the user side. It has always been clear that interfaces would continue to change, partly for reasons of resource conservation.