ᐅ House and Floor Plan Design – Initial Architect’s Draft Available
Created on: 14 Oct 2020 18:29
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Pinkiponk
As previously announced, our old house in Baden-Württemberg has now been sold, we have moved to the Leipzig district, and we can now focus on our new house. Due to our age, we have deliberately downsized both the lot size and the living space. We have a first architect’s draft. I have already noted a few change requests and am now looking forward to your additions, criticism, and suggestions. If further plans or similar are needed, I will gladly provide them as long as I have them available.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Lot size: 567sqm (6,105 sqft)
Slope: visually not noticeable; if this is important information, I will look for where to find it
Site occupancy index: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see attached drawing
Edge development: not allowed/desired on our part
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: classic, conservative
Orientation: ?
Maximum heights/limits: “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to ridge height of main roof max. 11.5 meters (38 feet)”; “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to eave height of main roof max. 7.0 meters (23 feet)”
Further requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: we are trying to approximate the house shown in the photo below; however, without the gable projection; classic/conservative, hipped roof, town house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 1 male, 64 years old – 1 female, 58 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor → kitchen, shower bathroom, living/lounge room, utility room with kitchenette and floor drain, hallway;
Upper floor → bathroom with tub, bedroom, 2 “wardrobe and storage rooms”
Office: family use or home office? Couple without children, no home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 10
Open or closed architecture: open on the outside, closed on the inside
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: no, classical L-shaped kitchen or similar (the plan includes a cooking island that will not be built)
Number of dining seats: 2 in the kitchen, up to 6–8 in the living/lounge room
Fireplace: gas stove chimney
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: both no
Garage, carport: 2 arched carports
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: both no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be
House Design
Who created the plan:
– Planner from a construction company: yes, in cooperation with the clients
– Architect: unclear
– Do-it-yourself: yes, in cooperation with the prefabricated house manufacturer’s planner
What do you especially like? Why? Many windows and patio doors, lots of natural light and fresh air
What do you not like? Why? The windows on the upper floor are too low in the plan, but this will be changed
Price estimate according to architect/planner: already commissioned offer/order €312,780.00 (without carport, outdoor facilities, additional construction costs, land, ...)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: €400,000.00
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal (according to legal requirements)
If you have to forgo something, which details/upgrades
– What you can give up: we are already giving up shutters, whirlpool
– What you cannot give up: many windows and patio doors, muntins in the windows and doors
Why is the design as it is? For example:
A mixture of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think makes it good or bad? It generally meets our wishes. On the ground floor, we want access to the garden from every room. We find symmetry more pleasing than asymmetry. Few different window and door formats. No horizontal (“lying”) windows. Each of us has a separate room for clothing and such, so that no wardrobes have to be placed in the bedroom. We do not want a separate dressing room.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The roof seems somewhat steep to me. Is a 30-degree roof pitch for a house with a base of 9.40m x 9.40m (31 feet x 31 feet) too steep? The standard according to the provider is 22 degrees. That seemed too flat, or you can hardly see the roof.
The development plan was too large to upload; I will try again in a separate post in this thread.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Lot size: 567sqm (6,105 sqft)
Slope: visually not noticeable; if this is important information, I will look for where to find it
Site occupancy index: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see attached drawing
Edge development: not allowed/desired on our part
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: classic, conservative
Orientation: ?
Maximum heights/limits: “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to ridge height of main roof max. 11.5 meters (38 feet)”; “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to eave height of main roof max. 7.0 meters (23 feet)”
Further requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: we are trying to approximate the house shown in the photo below; however, without the gable projection; classic/conservative, hipped roof, town house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 1 male, 64 years old – 1 female, 58 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor → kitchen, shower bathroom, living/lounge room, utility room with kitchenette and floor drain, hallway;
Upper floor → bathroom with tub, bedroom, 2 “wardrobe and storage rooms”
Office: family use or home office? Couple without children, no home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 10
Open or closed architecture: open on the outside, closed on the inside
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: no, classical L-shaped kitchen or similar (the plan includes a cooking island that will not be built)
Number of dining seats: 2 in the kitchen, up to 6–8 in the living/lounge room
Fireplace: gas stove chimney
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: both no
Garage, carport: 2 arched carports
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: both no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be
House Design
Who created the plan:
– Planner from a construction company: yes, in cooperation with the clients
– Architect: unclear
– Do-it-yourself: yes, in cooperation with the prefabricated house manufacturer’s planner
What do you especially like? Why? Many windows and patio doors, lots of natural light and fresh air
What do you not like? Why? The windows on the upper floor are too low in the plan, but this will be changed
Price estimate according to architect/planner: already commissioned offer/order €312,780.00 (without carport, outdoor facilities, additional construction costs, land, ...)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: €400,000.00
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal (according to legal requirements)
If you have to forgo something, which details/upgrades
– What you can give up: we are already giving up shutters, whirlpool
– What you cannot give up: many windows and patio doors, muntins in the windows and doors
Why is the design as it is? For example:
A mixture of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think makes it good or bad? It generally meets our wishes. On the ground floor, we want access to the garden from every room. We find symmetry more pleasing than asymmetry. Few different window and door formats. No horizontal (“lying”) windows. Each of us has a separate room for clothing and such, so that no wardrobes have to be placed in the bedroom. We do not want a separate dressing room.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The roof seems somewhat steep to me. Is a 30-degree roof pitch for a house with a base of 9.40m x 9.40m (31 feet x 31 feet) too steep? The standard according to the provider is 22 degrees. That seemed too flat, or you can hardly see the roof.
The development plan was too large to upload; I will try again in a separate post in this thread.
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Pinkiponk15 Oct 2020 11:43icandoit schrieb:
I didn’t dare to say the same, but it’s a valid question. After all, we don’t get any younger. We will be moving in our “later years” to a ground-floor apartment with a small garden, a bungalow, or assisted living. By the way, age/aging is not a taboo for me. I prefer age/aging over the alternative.
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Pinkiponk15 Oct 2020 11:5411ant schrieb:
That is clearly too steep, unnecessary, and pointless. In the following example, you can see my explanation https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/walmdach-ideale-neigung.25192/page-2#post-217738 related to the image in the opening post of the same thread. I would choose the proven 22° (which is still quite visible). Based on the photo in the thread with your explanation, I came to 30 degrees because I prefer how the roof looks with 30 degrees in the photo compared to 22 degrees. For our house, it ended up with a steep roof that really doesn’t look good. What did I do wrong?
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Pinkiponk15 Oct 2020 12:04pagoni2020 schrieb:
There was also the question of to what extent you can still make changes or if everything is basically fixed as planned. Or could you, for example, still change the house shape, etc., if you come up with new ideas? Yes, I can still make changes. Including the roof shape.
Haha, I find this kind of funny: Usually, we try to discourage TEs from planning for their old age. Here is (finally) a case where it would make sense to design the house for a lifetime, but you don’t want to do that.
I don’t think the floor plan is bad; you know what you want and what’s important to you, and you are planning/building accordingly. I would probably pay a bit more attention to the resale value if you’re already considering that. For example, don’t neglect the kitchen too much. Otherwise, I recommend thinking about the connections in the kitchen and bathroom early on, because it will be difficult or even impossible to change them after construction. Maybe make the wall between the kitchen and living room a drywall partition without any pipes inside, if possible, so buyers can easily remove the wall for an open-plan kitchen.
I don’t think the floor plan is bad; you know what you want and what’s important to you, and you are planning/building accordingly. I would probably pay a bit more attention to the resale value if you’re already considering that. For example, don’t neglect the kitchen too much. Otherwise, I recommend thinking about the connections in the kitchen and bathroom early on, because it will be difficult or even impossible to change them after construction. Maybe make the wall between the kitchen and living room a drywall partition without any pipes inside, if possible, so buyers can easily remove the wall for an open-plan kitchen.
Pinkiponk schrieb:
because I prefer the roof with the 30 degrees pitch in the photo over the one with 22 degrees.Fortunately, the creator of mathematics has provided many (actually infinitely many) numbers between 22 and 30, some of them even whole numbers. We faced the same question back then. We chose 25 degrees, and we have been satisfied ever since. The roof is low enough to look elegant, yet steep enough to be visible from below.P
Pinkiponk15 Oct 2020 12:49K1300S schrieb:
Fortunately, the inventor of mathematics actually provided quite a few (in fact, infinitely many) numbers between 22 and 30, some of them even whole numbers. We faced this question ourselves back then. In the end, we chose 25 degrees, and we have been satisfied ever since. The roof is flat enough to look elegant, yet steep enough to be visible from below.What are the dimensions of the house? Ours are 9.40 x 9.40 meters (31 x 31 feet).Similar topics