Hello,
an architect told us that building according to the HOAI fee structure is at least as cost-effective as building with Dieter Viehbrockhaus or Heinz von Heiden.
He explained that this is because construction companies already factor in their costs for show homes and similar expenses, while as an architect he directly hires the craftsmen and so on.
Is that a fair statement? Or is it more likely an unverifiable marketing claim on his part?
Thank you very much for your experiences and assessments.
an architect told us that building according to the HOAI fee structure is at least as cost-effective as building with Dieter Viehbrockhaus or Heinz von Heiden.
He explained that this is because construction companies already factor in their costs for show homes and similar expenses, while as an architect he directly hires the craftsmen and so on.
Is that a fair statement? Or is it more likely an unverifiable marketing claim on his part?
Thank you very much for your experiences and assessments.
nordanney schrieb:
You can also have the individual design done by the architect and then go to a local general contractor (GC) or timber frame builder who will give you a price for a part of the house. It's not necessarily required to award separate trade contracts.Is it possible to exclude such a point from the HOAI (official fee regulations for architects in Germany), or would an architect agree to that and then take on the construction supervision?
And what does the GC say about that?
Also, wouldn’t that probably cost more than if the architect handled everything from the start...?
boxandroof schrieb:
Apart from saving money: with an architect, there is a considerably higher risk that the price will still not be kept. Why do you think that? Isn’t there a budget that the architect has to stick to?
nordanney schrieb:
Plot. Does architect-designed construction have a comparable price to a standard model house like Heinz von Heiden or Town & Country, as mentioned by the OP? However, standard model house providers still have to pay their sales staff, as well as for their show homes, etc.
hampshire schrieb:
You can also agree on a fixed price with the architect, based on the HOAI (official scale of fees for services by architects and engineers).Doesn't it then have to be very precisely defined what is included in this price? It can be quite overwhelming. Or would you need a second architect to check the first one?N
nordanney3 Jan 2020 21:09The question of all questions: What exactly do you want? To build a timber-framed house or a Ytong (aerated concrete) house yourself, a prefabricated house, or work with an architect?
First, consider what is possible on your plot of land. If your site is special or has specific requirements, an architect is usually the best starting point. The construction method is a completely different matter – solid construction, prefab, or self-build. And a third topic is whether to hire a general contractor or individual trades.
You keep coming up with new (somewhat naive) ideas. Just arrange an initial meeting with an architect and gather some knowledge.
So, once again: What do you want to build? Without details for now, those can be decided later. What fits on your plot?
First, consider what is possible on your plot of land. If your site is special or has specific requirements, an architect is usually the best starting point. The construction method is a completely different matter – solid construction, prefab, or self-build. And a third topic is whether to hire a general contractor or individual trades.
You keep coming up with new (somewhat naive) ideas. Just arrange an initial meeting with an architect and gather some knowledge.
So, once again: What do you want to build? Without details for now, those can be decided later. What fits on your plot?
hb-julia schrieb:
There is a budget that the architect has to stick to, right??Köbes, a double Kölsch please! (Some jokes are so dry, even I find them hard to swallow.)
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