ᐅ Older Building on Property – Bungalow Extension – Various Issues
Created on: 16 Mar 2018 00:47
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Frau Meier16 Mar 2018 00:47Hello,
a question now for the experienced ones, because I just can’t believe it – there is an existing building on a plot that allows for an infill development of up to 95 square meters (1,023 square feet). Unfortunately, the existing building is quite large and has window openings on the relevant side, right in the middle.
I would like to add a bungalow there (in accordance with the zoning plan and fire safety regulations), but I cannot figure out what the costs would be – and whether the whole thing is even feasible depends on that.
Now I hear that an architect could work within my budget.... The architect then asks a builder, who says he needs a plan to determine the costs. That means I’m supposed to hire the architect to draw up a plan and have to pay around 300 or rather 3,000 euros (realistic?) upfront.
The architect needs the eligible costs for invoicing – but what exactly can he base those on here if the costs will only become clear after his plan? So he cannot tell me how much his drawing will cost in advance?
Is it really like this – I enter into a contract with an architect to prepare a plan based on an estimated construction cost for his billing, but then it turns out it’s not feasible because the actual costs are too high –?
And on a side note, honestly, it just can’t be that in Bavaria, the construction prices for a completely plain, no-frills standard house with four walls, a few small rooms, and a roof are so ridiculously high that a normal person can no longer afford it... Could it be that construction companies are charging these outrageous prices because they are overbooked and simply CAN charge what they want…?
Where is this all going???
Desperately,
Frau Meier
a question now for the experienced ones, because I just can’t believe it – there is an existing building on a plot that allows for an infill development of up to 95 square meters (1,023 square feet). Unfortunately, the existing building is quite large and has window openings on the relevant side, right in the middle.
I would like to add a bungalow there (in accordance with the zoning plan and fire safety regulations), but I cannot figure out what the costs would be – and whether the whole thing is even feasible depends on that.
Now I hear that an architect could work within my budget.... The architect then asks a builder, who says he needs a plan to determine the costs. That means I’m supposed to hire the architect to draw up a plan and have to pay around 300 or rather 3,000 euros (realistic?) upfront.
The architect needs the eligible costs for invoicing – but what exactly can he base those on here if the costs will only become clear after his plan? So he cannot tell me how much his drawing will cost in advance?
Is it really like this – I enter into a contract with an architect to prepare a plan based on an estimated construction cost for his billing, but then it turns out it’s not feasible because the actual costs are too high –?
And on a side note, honestly, it just can’t be that in Bavaria, the construction prices for a completely plain, no-frills standard house with four walls, a few small rooms, and a roof are so ridiculously high that a normal person can no longer afford it... Could it be that construction companies are charging these outrageous prices because they are overbooked and simply CAN charge what they want…?
Where is this all going???
Desperately,
Frau Meier
Frau Meier schrieb:
There is an existing building on a plot that allows for additional development of up to 95 sqm (1,023 sq ft). Unfortunately, the existing building is quite large and has window openings on the relevant side, right in the middle.
So I would like to add a bungalow there (compliant with the development plan and fire safety regulations), To clarify again: there is an existing house (which will remain) on the plot, and 95 sqm (1,023 sq ft) of buildable area still available. You want to use this for a single-story extension attached to the existing building. The existing structure naturally has windows on the side where you intend to build. Two things are unclear: whether this extension fits between the existing building and the building boundaries, and whether you can afford to finance this new building.
Please upload two things here: an excerpt of the development plan showing the plot, and a description of the room layout and other requirements for the new house.
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Frau Meier16 Mar 2018 01:16Wow, the responses are coming in quickly! :-)
A new development plan is currently being prepared, where the city planner would take into account and arrange the 95 sqm (1,023 sq ft) according to my suggestions (alternatively, there is the option of a fully detached standalone house in the corner, but that would ultimately split the garden). Therefore, the tendency is toward a bungalow extension to the existing building, which ideally should remain untouched.
There would be space for 9 m (30 ft) width and 10–11 m (33–36 ft) length, with the northern wide side aligning with the existing building. Along the old building, there would be no windows on the west side, but the front south side and east side would be open.
The desired rooms would be 3 smaller bedrooms, 1 bathroom, a utility/technical room, and an open-plan kitchen/living area. If necessary, only 2 bedrooms would be acceptable.
I have modest expectations regarding features, possibly a wood-burning fireplace.
My bold idea was a simple flat roof, firstly for fire protection concerning the balcony of the existing building, and secondly considering possible future additions by my descendants, in case the old building is eventually removed…
A new development plan is currently being prepared, where the city planner would take into account and arrange the 95 sqm (1,023 sq ft) according to my suggestions (alternatively, there is the option of a fully detached standalone house in the corner, but that would ultimately split the garden). Therefore, the tendency is toward a bungalow extension to the existing building, which ideally should remain untouched.
There would be space for 9 m (30 ft) width and 10–11 m (33–36 ft) length, with the northern wide side aligning with the existing building. Along the old building, there would be no windows on the west side, but the front south side and east side would be open.
The desired rooms would be 3 smaller bedrooms, 1 bathroom, a utility/technical room, and an open-plan kitchen/living area. If necessary, only 2 bedrooms would be acceptable.
I have modest expectations regarding features, possibly a wood-burning fireplace.
My bold idea was a simple flat roof, firstly for fire protection concerning the balcony of the existing building, and secondly considering possible future additions by my descendants, in case the old building is eventually removed…
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Frau Meier16 Mar 2018 01:30A bit scratched, but the base is still visible...
Hmm, it might be a good idea to create a clean version without any scribbles and also include a few words explaining the meaning of various items or illustrations. Alternatively, you could make a new drawing that is clear and organized, perhaps using different colors and an accompanying legend. 😉
And then upload it as an image file instead of a PDF, so it can be viewed immediately.
And then upload it as an image file instead of a PDF, so it can be viewed immediately.
Frau Meier schrieb:
A bit scribbled, but the base is still visible... Yeah, a bit scribbled. I don’t see anything, or is this some kind of inkblot test?
Frau Meier schrieb:
So he can’t tell me in advance how much his drawing will cost? Actually, he can. Architects can correct me if I’m wrong, but as far as I know, the fee for the design phase is based on a cost estimate using standardized values per cubic meter of enclosed space.
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