ᐅ Is the real estate market increasingly forcing families to build their own homes?
Created on: 6 Apr 2019 11:35
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Thierse
Actually, we would prefer to avoid building. Unfortunately, existing properties within a 20 km (12 miles) radius have become quite expensive, and affordable rental houses with small gardens are simply scarce.
Until now, we have been living in an old rental apartment without a garden. We would like to change that, but there is a lack of options. The listings on various platforms are overcrowded with families looking for affordable housing.
Who is familiar with this situation, and how do you deal with it?
Until now, we have been living in an old rental apartment without a garden. We would like to change that, but there is a lack of options. The listings on various platforms are overcrowded with families looking for affordable housing.
Who is familiar with this situation, and how do you deal with it?
About the energy saving regulations.
Of course, they also drive up costs, not the only factor but one of them:
An energy calculation must be done: 1500,-
Some renewable energy system must be installed in the house: at least 4000,- for solar thermal, everything else is more expensive
Everything must be sealed with plastic. Costs?
Triple glazing is mandatory. Probably also around 2000,-
Monolithic construction is barely possible anymore. Costs?
And the energy saving regulations are nonsense in many ways... they are often neither ecologically nor economically effective and do not take into account insulation costs, including ecological insulation costs. K.
Of course, they also drive up costs, not the only factor but one of them:
An energy calculation must be done: 1500,-
Some renewable energy system must be installed in the house: at least 4000,- for solar thermal, everything else is more expensive
Everything must be sealed with plastic. Costs?
Triple glazing is mandatory. Probably also around 2000,-
Monolithic construction is barely possible anymore. Costs?
And the energy saving regulations are nonsense in many ways... they are often neither ecologically nor economically effective and do not take into account insulation costs, including ecological insulation costs. K.
Nordlys schrieb:
It must have triple glazing.Not necessarily. The 2016 Energy Saving Regulation corresponds to the former KfW 70 standard, and when we built our KfW 70 house in 2013, the trend for triple glazing hadn’t even started yet. So you can still do without it if you want to build according to the current Energy Saving Regulation.
But besides the saying “you only build once,” there is also the notion that “if you build just to meet the Energy Saving Regulation, that is, the minimum standard, you end up with an energy-inefficient old-style house.”
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wurmwichtel10 Apr 2019 11:09That may be true, but nowadays using such heavy measures is like shooting mosquitoes with cannons.
We pay 55€ per month for heating and hot water for our 130sqm (1400 sq ft) home.
What advantages would KfW55 and KfW40(+) standards offer in this case?
480mm (19 inches) aerated concrete (PP1.6) should be sufficient for passive houses.
"I'm sitting here in my Bonka!" *sing*
We pay 55€ per month for heating and hot water for our 130sqm (1400 sq ft) home.
What advantages would KfW55 and KfW40(+) standards offer in this case?
Nordlys schrieb:
...It is hardly possible to build monolithically anymore. Costs? ...
480mm (19 inches) aerated concrete (PP1.6) should be sufficient for passive houses.
"I'm sitting here in my Bonka!" *sing*
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pffreestyler10 Apr 2019 11:13@meine Aussage oben
No subsidy, but you are right about the own work; quite a bit was done independently. Of course, that somewhat distorts the comparison, but it doesn’t compensate for 100,000 or 2,000 net.
No subsidy, but you are right about the own work; quite a bit was done independently. Of course, that somewhat distorts the comparison, but it doesn’t compensate for 100,000 or 2,000 net.
pffreestyler schrieb:
@my statement above
No subsidy, but you’re right about the own work—quite a bit was done DIY. That naturally distorts the comparison somewhat, but doesn’t make up for 100,000 or 2,000 net.That’s the difference: a modest home with a low income, who don’t complain, versus an income of around 6,000–7,000 per month, wanting “what every glossy magazine shows” and complaining about property prices.
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