ᐅ Is the real estate market increasingly forcing families to build their own homes?
Created on: 6 Apr 2019 11:35
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Thierse
Actually, we would prefer to avoid building. Unfortunately, existing properties within a 20 km (12 miles) radius have become quite expensive, and affordable rental houses with small gardens are simply scarce.
Until now, we have been living in an old rental apartment without a garden. We would like to change that, but there is a lack of options. The listings on various platforms are overcrowded with families looking for affordable housing.
Who is familiar with this situation, and how do you deal with it?
Until now, we have been living in an old rental apartment without a garden. We would like to change that, but there is a lack of options. The listings on various platforms are overcrowded with families looking for affordable housing.
Who is familiar with this situation, and how do you deal with it?
Nordlys schrieb:
Among other things, the mentioned requirements drive up the actual house price. But that is not the reason why the original poster feels forced to build. If necessary, they would just build a clay hut. However, they cannot find an affordable plot in their city, neither for living nor for building, because:
No more space in the city! Full – [I]completely finished – square meters all taken.[/I]
The outdoor toilet wasn’t that bad. The wood remained comfortable even in freezing temperatures. It didn’t feel like you were freezing to the seat. I remember my grandfather replaced the outdoor toilet with a proper indoor toilet. In the first winter, an electric heater was added – something that hadn’t bothered anyone for centuries before.
The land price makes a big difference. Using the same budget we have (Karsten could have cut 100,000 euros), building in major cities or their metropolitan areas would have been enough for a Flair 113 or 125 with a carport.
Expectations: Yes, they are there. Walk-in closet, kids’ bathroom, lift-and-slide door, extra gaming or hobby room, and maybe more space (looking around at houses from the ’60s, ’70s, and ’80s, people tend to build smaller nowadays).
The countryside: living there isn’t so bad. Why it’s considered unattractive, I have no idea. Even my brother-in-law has nothing positive to say about it, except that it’s terrible.
If you don’t want to build, you don’t have to and shouldn’t.
The repayment rate plus additional costs plus savings – anyone spending that on rent is basically paying for what are considered luxury apartments.
The land price makes a big difference. Using the same budget we have (Karsten could have cut 100,000 euros), building in major cities or their metropolitan areas would have been enough for a Flair 113 or 125 with a carport.
Expectations: Yes, they are there. Walk-in closet, kids’ bathroom, lift-and-slide door, extra gaming or hobby room, and maybe more space (looking around at houses from the ’60s, ’70s, and ’80s, people tend to build smaller nowadays).
The countryside: living there isn’t so bad. Why it’s considered unattractive, I have no idea. Even my brother-in-law has nothing positive to say about it, except that it’s terrible.
If you don’t want to build, you don’t have to and shouldn’t.
The repayment rate plus additional costs plus savings – anyone spending that on rent is basically paying for what are considered luxury apartments.
Town and countryside. Why does everyone want to move to Ham or at least KI and HL, or to L near Katja, etc.?
There are jobs in rural areas, but the range of well-paid professions is limited—some civil service positions at schools or local authorities, a few roles for medical professionals, otherwise mainly trades or tourism-related services. No IT jobs, no business economist positions; construction engineers and architects might find work, but there are no industrial jobs. Out in the real countryside, beyond the small towns and villages, we see aging populations and genuine rural depopulation. A farmer with 1,000 hectares (2,470 acres) only needs one or two workers, the agricultural machinery mechanic a few technicians; otherwise, it's just the fertilizer dealer, and that’s it.
People have waited too long to make changes here. I think many software or media professionals could now live and work in rural areas, as long as there’s a 100,000 (100k) Mbps connection. But the municipalities often cannot meet the required 60% subscription rate because of the aging remaining population and the low education level of the young people still living there. Digitalization fails—grandma doesn’t need it, and Hannes on the combine harvester doesn’t either. The village mayor is desperate because his new housing development isn’t attracting residents, and the daycare center is at risk.
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There are jobs in rural areas, but the range of well-paid professions is limited—some civil service positions at schools or local authorities, a few roles for medical professionals, otherwise mainly trades or tourism-related services. No IT jobs, no business economist positions; construction engineers and architects might find work, but there are no industrial jobs. Out in the real countryside, beyond the small towns and villages, we see aging populations and genuine rural depopulation. A farmer with 1,000 hectares (2,470 acres) only needs one or two workers, the agricultural machinery mechanic a few technicians; otherwise, it's just the fertilizer dealer, and that’s it.
People have waited too long to make changes here. I think many software or media professionals could now live and work in rural areas, as long as there’s a 100,000 (100k) Mbps connection. But the municipalities often cannot meet the required 60% subscription rate because of the aging remaining population and the low education level of the young people still living there. Digitalization fails—grandma doesn’t need it, and Hannes on the combine harvester doesn’t either. The village mayor is desperate because his new housing development isn’t attracting residents, and the daycare center is at risk.
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HilfeHilfe12 Apr 2019 07:53New new new. Okay, I also have something new, but only a semi-detached house with 120 sqm (1300 sq ft) that fit our budget. I could have had a 220 sqm (2400 sq ft) older bunker-style house, too. Those go quickly around here, like apples and eggs. A big family buys them and makes themselves comfortable, I must admit. But for us, it wasn’t an option—two cars and then another transfer to train or subway for 20 km (12 miles) further away is too inflexible. So here you have dependencies: time, money, and amenities.
chand1986 schrieb:
You can choose whatever you want, but in Germany people are used to reaching high up on the shelf and then calling that the minimum standard.Maybe not "minimum standard," but when building new in 2019, it hardly makes sense to put together something based on the technical standards of 2010. Everything that is still considered a luxury today will very likely be expected as a minimum standard within 10 to 15 years. Would anyone still want to skip underfloor heating today? That was still an exception in 2005. I don’t need smart home gadgets or anything like that either, but the trend is clearly moving in that direction. Those who don’t keep up will have to accept a loss in value later or face expensive retrofitting.
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