On the topic of Wi-Fi: then your kids must never grow up.
Let’s say there’s Mom, Dad, and two kids. Mom is watching her favorite soap opera streamed on the TV, Dad is browsing the internet (including YouTube) looking for instructions to fix the troublesome washing machine. Junior, who just turned 16, is gaming online on the PlayStation with friends, meanwhile running a group voice chat on his phone. The daughter, only 12 years old, is browsing YouTube and Instagram, all in HD of course. Her friend is sitting next to her on their phone, fully engaged.
Show me a Wi-Fi channel that wouldn’t collapse under all that traffic. Exactly for situations like this, you need one or another wired connection. The console and TV can reduce their bandwidth demand on the Wi-Fi by using Ethernet cables, freeing up space to supply the mobile devices with enough speed.
If, like Nordlys for example, you mostly have peace and quiet from the youth, then Wi-Fi alone is generally sufficient. But with kids around, it becomes a tricky issue, and it doesn’t take long for them to start blaming each other for slow internet.
Let’s say there’s Mom, Dad, and two kids. Mom is watching her favorite soap opera streamed on the TV, Dad is browsing the internet (including YouTube) looking for instructions to fix the troublesome washing machine. Junior, who just turned 16, is gaming online on the PlayStation with friends, meanwhile running a group voice chat on his phone. The daughter, only 12 years old, is browsing YouTube and Instagram, all in HD of course. Her friend is sitting next to her on their phone, fully engaged.
Show me a Wi-Fi channel that wouldn’t collapse under all that traffic. Exactly for situations like this, you need one or another wired connection. The console and TV can reduce their bandwidth demand on the Wi-Fi by using Ethernet cables, freeing up space to supply the mobile devices with enough speed.
If, like Nordlys for example, you mostly have peace and quiet from the youth, then Wi-Fi alone is generally sufficient. But with kids around, it becomes a tricky issue, and it doesn’t take long for them to start blaming each other for slow internet.
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chand198620 Aug 2018 14:30Deliverer schrieb:
No one really needs 4K for film and TV at home (now or in the future).Need? Honestly, you don’t really need a TV itself.
But at 75 inches and a 3.5m (11.5 ft) viewing distance, there is a noticeable difference between 2K and 4K. Nothing essential, but you definitely didn’t need the upgrade to 2K either, and you could still watch content just fine before that...
(I think Wonder Woman was the movie we watched in UHD. Amazing. Although it’s simply a good movie anyway.)
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Deliverer20 Aug 2018 15:05No, I deliberately used "need" in the sense of "it’s pointless." It is simply not possible to see a difference without binoculars. --> Wikipedia "resolution."
Your example is actually very close to the limit where full HD might be slightly insufficient for people with good eyesight. However, in 98% of households, you will find both a greater viewing distance and a smaller screen diagonal. So, I’ll boldly stick to my opinion.
But please don’t misunderstand me: I am a quality enthusiast myself and appreciate technical innovations. The rush for higher resolution is, however, rather disadvantageous for almost all applications because it takes away capacity from higher dynamic range and decent audio tracks, often without delivering any added value, simply because the human eye is not good enough.
4K is a great feature. For gaming consoles—once they are fast enough—and for PC games, it’s a must. In those cases, I also sit very close to the screen. For movies, it would be much more important to finally move away from the slow 24fps and make HDR a standard.
And regarding streaming, the reality is that a Blu-ray currently still offers better picture and sound quality than almost all 4K streams available online.
Your example is actually very close to the limit where full HD might be slightly insufficient for people with good eyesight. However, in 98% of households, you will find both a greater viewing distance and a smaller screen diagonal. So, I’ll boldly stick to my opinion.
But please don’t misunderstand me: I am a quality enthusiast myself and appreciate technical innovations. The rush for higher resolution is, however, rather disadvantageous for almost all applications because it takes away capacity from higher dynamic range and decent audio tracks, often without delivering any added value, simply because the human eye is not good enough.
4K is a great feature. For gaming consoles—once they are fast enough—and for PC games, it’s a must. In those cases, I also sit very close to the screen. For movies, it would be much more important to finally move away from the slow 24fps and make HDR a standard.
And regarding streaming, the reality is that a Blu-ray currently still offers better picture and sound quality than almost all 4K streams available online.
Evolith schrieb:
But you also experience lag. With a good router, I can set QoS (Quality of Service) so that my devices get higher priority/bandwidth than the kids’. Alternatively, modern routers can create multiple Wi-Fi networks: 2.4 GHz for guests/kids with bandwidth limits and forced shutoff at night, and the 5 GHz band for the parents. Nothing lags there (at least for me), and the kids inevitably find other real-life activities when the internet slows down again.
chand1986 schrieb:
But at 75 inches and 3.5 m (11.5 ft) distance, there is a noticeable difference between 2K and 4K. The higher the resolution, the closer you need to sit to see all the details—so sitting too far from a 4K TV means your eyes only see blurred details; it ends up looking like Full HD. 10-bit HDR makes sense for richer colors; 4K resolution depends on the source input and viewing distance.
The most common guideline for UHD recommends a viewing distance of 1.5 times the screen size (for 75 inches, that’s 2.85 m (9.4 ft)), while some manufacturers recommend as little as 1.5 m (5 ft) for 75-inch screens.
Edit: People don’t need more than 24 fps since the eye/brain can’t process higher frame rates anyway.
It’s a bit binary here, as if the question is "LAN yes" or "LAN no."
Applications with higher bandwidth requirements should preferably be connected by cable, while the rest can easily do without it. You can skip installing an outlet for the coffee machine or the refrigerator—it’s a waste of money.
Applications with higher bandwidth requirements should preferably be connected by cable, while the rest can easily do without it. You can skip installing an outlet for the coffee machine or the refrigerator—it’s a waste of money.
About Evolith:
Your kids are obviously still young, but that will change. And when your son ends up spending all his time in front of the console, playing World of Warcraft or similar games, you don’t give him a network port. Instead, you take him aside and say, “My boy, I see you as a hero, a fighter. Your dad and I want to send you to the military so you can defend our homeland in Mali or at the Horn of Africa. We will be proud of you, and if you fall for your country and homeland, we will cry but also honor you. Son, what do you think about that?”
And then let him come... Karsten
Your kids are obviously still young, but that will change. And when your son ends up spending all his time in front of the console, playing World of Warcraft or similar games, you don’t give him a network port. Instead, you take him aside and say, “My boy, I see you as a hero, a fighter. Your dad and I want to send you to the military so you can defend our homeland in Mali or at the Horn of Africa. We will be proud of you, and if you fall for your country and homeland, we will cry but also honor you. Son, what do you think about that?”
And then let him come... Karsten
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