ᐅ Opening a roller shutter box?

Dear Sir or Madam, I plan to install the roller shutter control from Lupus to operate my roller shutters. Our house is already equipped with a Lupus XT2.

I have a very basic question: how is such a roller shutter box opened? It seems to be a flush-mounted box with two parts?

I want to install the actuator there due to limited space in the electrical control box.

Thank you very much in advance for your support.

Images are attached.

Best regards,
Michael

Is it not possible to install the actuator directly at the actual switch or push button?

Hello Mastermind1, thank you for your feedback.

Unfortunately, no. Although the boxes are 7.5cm (3 inches) deep, almost all of them contain so many cables that there is no space left for the actuator, and I cannot or do not want to deepen the boxes because I would have to move quite a few cables aside.

The effort required for the roller shutter housing is also very high.

As it stands today, I will proceed as planned: the Lupus will be used purely as an alarm system, and for the "smart home" functions, I will use the Homematic flush-mounted actuators. I will test this next weekend, meaning the actual control will be handled by the actuator :-)

Micha78 schrieb:
Hello Mastermind1, thank you for your feedback.

Unfortunately no, the boxes are 7.5cm (3 inches) deep, but almost all of them contain so many cables that there is no room for the actuator, and I cannot or do not want to deepen the boxes because I would have to move quite a few cables aside.

The effort with the roller shutter box is also very high.

Based on the current status, I will proceed as follows: the Lupus will be used purely as an alarm system, and for the "smart home" I will use Homematic flush-mounted actuators. I will test this next weekend, meaning the actual control will be replaced by the actuator :-)

I have retrofitted flush-mounted actuators for roller shutters / blinds myself in tight boxes. Even in shallow flush boxes, it's doable with a bit of organization. In deep boxes like yours, it's even easier. Use good new Wago connectors (they have become much flatter), and then wiring works out fine.

In my case, I went with the wireless protocol Z-Wave using various Fibaro actuators. These are the slimmest Z-Wave actuators on the market. Z-Wave uses mesh technology to improve range within the house. This means the actuators themselves can act as repeaters for signal transmission to other actuators if needed.

I program everything with IP-Symcon. A software that supports all currently available systems on the market (wireless systems, wired bus systems, and more).

Homematic definitely has its justification. Unfortunately, it is produced by only one manufacturer, which raises some concerns. However, the manufacturer (eq3) has been around for a long time. In my opinion, eq3 now produces for too many areas (Miele/Bosch?/Telekom/RWE/...). Nevertheless, Homematic remains very popular.

On the other hand, Z-Wave is offered by numerous manufacturers. The range of products keeps growing. Off the top of my head, I can name:
Fibaro
Qubino
Popp
D-Link
Heatit
Philio
Logihome
and many more.
The selection there is much larger than for Homematic. Although Homematic is perfectly sufficient for basic functions.

Also, if you’re looking for a high-quality multi-gang switch with good tactile feedback, lighting, and no battery operation, you won’t really find anything decent from Homematic. Just Google "zhc5002" (a conversion kit for a Gira 6-gang switch). With that, you get 6 switching options in a standard 55mm (2.2 inch) frame ;-)

Z-Wave devices can be programmed with various solutions: ready-made boxes with easy setup assistants, or software solutions for tinkerers.

As I said, I use IP-Symcon because it allowed me to combine different systems (Z-Wave, Zigbee, 1-Wire, Modbus from my photovoltaic system, weather station from Oregon Scientific, and more).

I am rather skeptical about manufacturer-specific solutions that do not rely on any standard.