ᐅ Room Layout – Condominium – 180 m²

kbt09 schrieb:
@ypg [emoji6] ... however, I’m afraid that this way the “master bathroom” will be even smaller than in my versions. Regarding your last comment where you see the kitchen area etc., I actually find Mattes’ layout quite interesting.

That’s no problem. Small bathrooms can be more elegant and practical than large ones. There’s no ban on a bigger one either, and no measurements yet [emoji6]

Unfortunately, I don’t like Mattes’ design at all, although I also naturally experimented with the private west wing. But overall, it’s not my style.

The challenge with a large building envelope is the relatively deep rooms, measuring about 7 meters (23 feet) from the window wall to the most distant interior wall. Therefore, it is important to consider which parts of the rooms can be sensibly arranged away from the window wall.

Hello everyone

Thank you for the many great suggestions and ideas; we are overwhelmed by the fantastic community here! Tomorrow evening, we will take plenty of time to provide you with detailed feedback.

Best regards

Hello everyone

Thanks again for the many great ideas. We would like to give you some feedback on the suggestions:

Regarding the various proposals with the office in the living room:
We are not completely convinced about having the office in the living room; ideally, we would prefer an additional room that could be used as an office/guest room. But perhaps one option would be to move the office to the right wall and close it off with a glass door?

We would appreciate some kind of room division in the living room.

@kbt09 Proposal 1:

What we like:

• The combined living/dining area and kitchen is appealing to us
• We also really like the ample storage space

Less favorable:

• The master bedroom feels rather tight. Our bed is 2m wide (6 ft 7 in)
• The layout with bathroom, walk-in closet, etc. in the master bedroom is interesting

@kbt09 Proposal 2:

• We find the centrally arranged walk-in closet in the master bedroom very interesting
• This design appeals to us even more than the first one

kbt09 schrieb:
Bathtub – if you’re not really into bathing yourself, I would always place the bathtub in the “public”/children’s bathroom. Because with kids, you definitely need it in the first years

Good point, thanks!

kbt09 schrieb:
Glass door from the hallway to the dining/kitchen/living area lets light into the hallway but also closes off the room

We prefer to keep the area open to the corridor.

kbt09 schrieb:

• Master bathroom – no window due to the shower and room location

We can accept one of the bathrooms without a window.

kbt09 schrieb:

• If the master bed has a mattress width of 200 cm, the space is too narrow. 180 cm would work

Exactly, the box spring bed is 200 cm wide (6 ft 7 in), and it looks rather cramped on the plan.

kbt09 schrieb:

• Master bathroom was planned with a separate WC room – is that really necessary? I personally find it a bit odd to disappear into such a small room inside the bathroom.

That was not intentional; it was probably a mistake in the plan.

kbt09 schrieb:
The shaft, now in the master bathroom and somewhat longer than originally planned, in the entrance versions in the children’s bathroom – that was fixed, right?

Yes, there will need to be a shaft for piping going upstairs; we still need to review that with the architect.

@matte1987
We find your first draft even more intriguing; we had a similar version sketched on paper ourselves initially 🙂

Positives:

• We like the bedroom positioned at the top left
• The TV area/sofa placement is interesting
• The room layout on the right side seems optimal to us

Questions:

• Please clarify the entrance to the master bedroom for us; is it planned to the left, above the dining table?

• We had some concerns about noise from the washing machine next to the bedroom, but nowadays that should probably not be an issue, right?

matte1987 schrieb:
I am not sure if I’m interpreting the OP’s picture correctly, but the view over the lake/river would be from the left side, so from the bedroom area,

The lake is further away on the left side, visible over the entire window front.

kbt09 schrieb:
The question is whether you really need that nice view from the bedroom.

Our architect asked the same question 😉 We think it’s important, but it’s open for debate.

@ypg Proposal 1:
Positives:

• We find the master bedroom placement appealing; the walk-in closet seems quite large, with direct access to the terrace.
• The utility room near the kitchen is a good idea

Negatives/feedback:

• We would rather swap the laundry room with the upstairs bathroom so that both bathrooms have windows
• The master bathroom looks quite small in the plan

ypg schrieb:
I gave the kitchen a terrace door and the bedroom a standard window.

This has already been changed in the original plans, but unfortunately not in the 3D drawings. The entire front, including the window by the terrace at the bottom, is now a sliding door.

We hope our feedback is somewhat helpful. We will think about it some more tomorrow and maybe sketch 1-2 more variants.

Best regards
Marc

You should update the window front in the floor plan.

And, it is very important to clarify with the architect what can actually be done. Mattes’ proposal assumes bathroom piping in locations where there was none before. The toilet drainage is always a critical point. Also, consider what can still be done with the windows on the right side and the bottom side of the plan. Because with the existing windows, it will be really challenging.

In my proposals, the “home office” should definitely not be placed against the right wall, as that would ruin the room and the home office would have little access to the window front. By the way, the proposals still included a separate guest room.

Used your own design three times as a basis. What I really dislike are bathrooms without windows in new buildings. I also found an 11m² (118 sq ft) children's room to be too small.